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View Poll Results: What is Texas?
The South 97 51.87%
The Southwest 22 11.76%
The West 1 0.53%
The Midwest 3 1.60%
Can't categorize it. It's just Texas. 64 34.22%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-17-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Most do not consider it a part of the south, so no.



Wrong! Most do consider it a part of the South. It is in the South and it was a Confederate state that seceded from the Union. How would you classify it?


BTW what some ignorant people consider makes no difference. Facts are facts.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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Wrong! Most do consider it a part of the South. It is in the South and it was a Confederate state that seceded from the Union. How would you classify it?


BTW what some ignorant people consider makes no difference. Facts are facts.
It was also part of Mexico before it was part of the dead and deceased confederacy...so many consider it Mexico. How would you classify that?
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:21 PM
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Texas should give their western panhandle to New Mexico.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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And overall TX is completely different from AZ or NM, which are strictly Southwestern--right?

As a state, TX has most of the Southern hallmarks: was a part of the Confederacy, had chattel slavery, Jim Crow was the law of the land, is included in the Cotton Belt, had a significant amount of lynchings pre-Civil Rights, has several HBCUs, is predominantly Baptist, has the Southern drawls/twangs, is big on BBQ, etc. Of course the state is where a couple of different regions meet, but it has historically been considered Southern and it seems that Southern culture has played more of a role in its history and development than any other domestic culture.
I thought I made it pretty clear in my post that the far eastern/southern portion of the state definitely reflects southern culture, etc. I also stated that the western half of Texas feels very Southwestern, not much different than NM or AZ in many aspects. And while we're on the subject, AZ also has cotton fields, many natives speak with a drawl (not as pronounced as Texas, though), and AZ was run by the Confederacy during the Civil War, but AZ isnt southern in any sense of the word.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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It was also part of Mexico before it was part of the dead and deceased confederacy...so many consider it Mexico. How would you classify that?
Actually, Scotty011 is correct. Forget the confederacy part of it, the U.S. Census bureau still places Texas in the South. It may not be typically Southern in culture, topography, and climate, but then again neither are Florida nor Virginia (culturally at least).

People in these forums seem to have this strange notion that in order to be truly Southern, there has to be some across-the-board culture of Cotton, Black-majority population, and plantations. I really only see this on C-D. Having grown up in Texas and spending a fair amount of time in what is generally considered the "Deep South" (MS, AL, GA, SC), there are some very obvious differences, but not so much so that Texas feels like a completely separate region. And I'm referring to pretty much ALL of Texas, not just East Texas.

The only part of Texas that feels completely separated from the South is the extreme Western tip (ie. El Paso). What people always seem to conveniently overlook is that the South is a massive region. It encompasses many sub-regions where the local culture varies widely from others. Yet people always use this purist standard of the aforementioned "cotton/plantation/majority-Black" model to sum up a region that is roughly 1/4 the area of the continental U.S. I really don't understand why people can't accept that there are many different flavors of "Southern", and no one flavor is "more" Southern than the other.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Texas should give their western panhandle to New Mexico.
No, they should give their actual panhandle to Oklahoma.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Some may consider it as such, but the fact is it isn't the Midwest. People can believe West Virginia is in China if they choose to. I prefer facts.
What is Oklahoma, then? I wouldnt consider it southern, its far more like Kansas than Louisiana, is it not? And I consider KS to be Plains/Midwestern, not southern or western.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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Southern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Imo, yes.
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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What is Oklahoma, then? I wouldnt consider it southern, its far more like Kansas than Louisiana, is it not? And I consider KS to be Plains/Midwestern, not southern or western.
Oklahoma is definitely, without a doubt Southern.

Jeebus... was ANYBODY paying attention in 8th grade Geography?
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Old 10-17-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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Actually, Scotty011 is correct. Forget the confederacy part of it, the U.S. Census bureau still places Texas in the South. It may not be typically Southern in culture, topography, and climate, but then again neither are Florida nor Virginia (culturally at least).

People in these forums seem to have this strange notion that in order to be truly Southern, there has to be some across-the-board culture of Cotton, Black-majority population, and plantations. I really only see this on C-D. Having grown up in Texas and spending a fair amount of time in what is generally considered the "Deep South", there are some very obvious differences, but not so much so that Texas feels like a completely separate region. And I'm referring to pretty much ALL of Texas, not just East Texas.

The only part of Texas that feels completely separated from the South is the extreme Western tip (ie. El Paso). What people always seem to conveniently overlook is that the South is a massive region. It encompasses many sub-regions where the local culture varies widely from others. Yet people always use this purist standard of the aforementioned "cotton/plantation/majority-Black" model to sum up a region that is roughly 1/4 the area of the continental U.S. I really don't understand why people can't accept that there are different flavors of "Southern", and no one flavor is "more" Southern than the other.
=) Mr Blog, I know youre not feeling insecure about Texas being a Southern state are you?

I already know where and what Tejas is formally. I just don't care for confederates and their secret/subliminal infatuations.

Also Mr. Blog on a more serious note...I really do think that during this time and era in America where once sparsely populated areas have now become populated...there is going to be a different designation of regions and regional identities. North, South, East, West and Midwest just isn't gonna cut it. Like I said, I know what and where Texas is formally, a Southern state, but to be honest...the place is really a place unto itself and theres nothing wrong with that. Im surprised they haven't split TX and CA up into different states by now.

Oh yeah, you said "typically Southern"...what is that if you don't mind me asking?
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