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Old 07-14-2015, 09:43 PM
 
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Good points, Bajan. No race is actually decided upon by anyone. But, no other "race" is made up of members of races that are already "claimed".
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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Ahh it never fails that city data threads turn into "anthropology" discussions
Why not?
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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Would you consider Diego Maradona or Juan Martin Del Potro (both "favorite sons" of Argentina) to be White?


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Maradona is of predominantly European/White ancestry (Italian, Spanish) with Amerindian admixture. Those features are seen on his face too. I would consider him as a White Hispanic, but not in the sense that I am and most of White people who live here.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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I feel like this one should be easy to debunk. Just look at celebs like George Lopez, then look at Major League Baseball Players like Yasiel Puig or actors like Andy Garcia to maybe see that there probably isn't some mythical Hispanic race.

But then you have people who say "well those are just skin tone variations, but Hispanic is still a race". What makes people believe this nonsense? To be fair I think the concept of race is flawed to begin with but if it was to exist at least people would have a point in thinking Northern Europeans are the same "race" like West Africans are the same "race". But Hispanics?

Why does this Hispanic term even exist? They are not a monolithic group. Latin American countries are not homogeneous AT ALL (just look at Venezuela or Puerto Rico). The fact that they speak the same language is irrelevant, as no one believes in an "Anglian" race made up of people from Anglophone countries.

I think this term should be dropped.
Hispanic is not a race, more like an ethnic group based on linguistical evidence not race, they could range from White like Europeans to as Black as Africans or anywhere in between.
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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Maradona is of predominantly European/White ancestry (Italian, Spanish) with Amerindian admixture. Those features are seen on his face too. I would consider him as a White Hispanic, but not in the sense that I am and most of White people who live here.
How do you determine whether someone has Amerindian mixture? I can't ever.
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Old 08-15-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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I don't know why they put anything on there as 'race' when genetics teaches us there are only 3 true races: Mongol, Afro-Asian, and Iberian(incl. Aryan). Everything else is derivative; everyone can trace their lineage through hundreds of generations to one or even all of these founding bloodlines.

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Old 08-16-2015, 11:57 PM
 
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I don't know why they put anything on there as 'race' when genetics teaches us there are only 3 true races: Mongol, Afro-Asian, and Iberian(incl. Aryan). Everything else is derivative; everyone can trace their lineage through hundreds of generations to one or even all of these founding bloodlines.
I'd say physical anthropology essentially boils down to three general racial groups (Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Negroid), mainly based on skull forms. Genetics usually cluster people into several groups that are more or less similar, though Northeast Asians and Amerindians and Southeast Asians-Pacific Islands are somewhat distinct.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudie...nguistics1.jpg

When a forensic anthropologist says a body is "Hispanic" (i.e. a dead body with no ID) or a geneticist says "Hispanics" are genetically predisposed adult onset diabetes; they should be saying "Amerindian."
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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I'd say physical anthropology essentially boils down to three general racial groups (Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Negroid), mainly based on skull forms. Genetics usually cluster people into several groups that are more or less similar, though Northeast Asians and Amerindians and Southeast Asians-Pacific Islands are somewhat distinct.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudie...nguistics1.jpg

When a forensic anthropologist says a body is "Hispanic" (i.e. a dead body with no ID) or a geneticist says "Hispanics" are genetically predisposed adult onset diabetes; they should be saying "Amerindian."
Which is funny because most well-known Hispanics aren't Amerindian, but clearly mixed.

Funnily enough I've been told at times I look Hispanic and aside from my dark and eyes, I don't look the least bit Amerindian. I have coarse body hair, a full beard that comes up near my eyes, and my hair is wavy bordering on curly. Also have olive skin (not brown) and small cheekbones. Maybe they meant I look like a Spaniard? I am of Portuguese descent. Interestingly in New England, people I'm Cape Verdian when I tan.
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Old 08-17-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I'd say physical anthropology essentially boils down to three general racial groups (Mongoloid, Caucasoid, Negroid), mainly based on skull forms. Genetics usually cluster people into several groups that are more or less similar, though Northeast Asians and Amerindians and Southeast Asians-Pacific Islands are somewhat distinct.


http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudie...nguistics1.jpg

When a forensic anthropologist says a body is "Hispanic" (i.e. a dead body with no ID) or a geneticist says "Hispanics" are genetically predisposed adult onset diabetes; they should be saying "Amerindian."
Thats it. Thats what I was thinking of. Idk how I got Iberian from that.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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I don't know why they put anything on there as 'race' when genetics teaches us there are only 3 true races: Mongol, Afro-Asian, and Iberian(incl. Aryan). Everything else is derivative; everyone can trace their lineage through hundreds of generations to one or even all of these founding bloodlines.
^This.^
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