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Old 10-23-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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Someone mentioned that Hawaii is Polynesian, which it is... but there IS a a Union Jack on the state's flag. We are very much like the British. England also has a huge amount of ethnic diversity.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:48 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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New Mexico is more (17th century) Spanish than Mexican, and even with that it is ultimately as "American as apple pie", which originated in Britain, so...
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Mid-Michigan by way of Northern New Hampshire
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Why?
They started arriving in huge numbers during the Potato Famine and within 50 or so years practically controlled Boston. That's a huge jump in social cache for any new arrival.

And they managed to do so by essentially toppling a WASPy establishment that saw them as inferior.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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I agree.... but not so much the last part of ..."over the years a separation from the British culture"????

That was really short lived. After Independence... yes a complete split in ties. But culture almost NEVER?

ALWAYS the US looked to the UK for Culture. This Century continued the cultural tie. Music. Dress styles. The British Invasion was far more then just music? It continued the CULTURAL INFLUENCE. So No ...IT DID NOT LESSEN IN THE LAST DECADES.??? IT BECAME MORE ENTRENCHED. We virtually see the Royal Family as if under the Crown too?? Hollywood and TV still has many British and other ANGLO NATIONS ACTORS. They take on American accents though...LOL

YES WE ARE STILL A ANGLO NATION ADOPTED AS IF INTO THE ANGLO FAMILY....
ASK A FRENCHMAN.... What culture do you see the US linked with most??? Would they say French? No
German? No Italian? No BRITISH........YES
If the British see it as so??? And much of the world? It is.....
Overall I agree with this but, for example, I grew up in south Louisiana where you have the least English as a percentage of any state except Hawaii and it's not really like UK...more like France or Spain including the use of French Civil Law. Then you have huge swaths in the southwest that are largely Hispanic.

So for the country as a whole I agree with you, but there are a significant areas of the USA that are not very Anglo in their culture or attitudes.
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Old 10-24-2014, 02:25 AM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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I agree I have Ulster Scots cousins in america and they call themselves irish. There seems to be a lot of anti-English people there.
I think you mistaken the reason your Scot descent cousins link with the Irish in the US? HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
ANTI-ENGLISH ANYTHING. The Irish are just the Larger group linage in the US. The Scot accent to Americans sound Irish. Once they are second and third generation. Whether Welsh, Scot or Irish they all just go with Irish. But nothing to do with anti-English sentiment.
The US didn't go through the Catholic. Protestant huge issue thing. Much of the Irish who came over from the Great Potato famine, did not make Church issues rule when starving back in that day?

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Old 10-24-2014, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Northern Ireland
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I always wondered what America would be like if European colonialism wasnt as harsh.
It would be poor
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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So I guess I am not an American because I don't have anglo-saxxon roots.

My family came from Norway

and African-Americans are not Americans either, neither are the Italian-Americans, or the hispanics, or the jews, or the Asians.
The Normans conquered England, the Normans were descended from the Vikings.

As much as this now pains me to say, you're one of us!
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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it would have different nations

Cherokee, Apache, Inuit, Aztec, Mayans, then all the way down to south america you'd have all sort of nations with different languages, sort of like Europe or Africa.

Some nations really wealthy and developed, others poor and rural.

No black people or white people anywhere, everyone would look sort of mexican
That's my thinking aswell.

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It would be poor
Huh? Why assume that??
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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ation. Whether Welsh, Scot or Irish they all just go with Irish. But nothing to do with anti-English sentiment.
The US didn't go through the Catholic. Protestant huge issue thing. Much of the Irish who came over from the Great Potato famine, did not make Church issues rule when starving back in that day?
New England did, it was rather divided for a long time, and often voted on Catholic - Protestant lines. Using Irish to refer to Irish Protestants would sound odd here.
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Mid-Michigan by way of Northern New Hampshire
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New England did, it was rather divided for a long time, and often voted on Catholic - Protestant lines. Using Irish to refer to Irish Protestants would sound odd here.
The rest of the country did as well. The KKK of the 1920s had a huge anti-Catholic message. The Democrats in 1928 struggled to convince the Southern Protestants to vote for their Catholic candidate. In 1960, people were even worried about Catholic John F. Kennedy becoming President.
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