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Old 10-28-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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How did Missouri became a midwestern state, but not Kentucky, even though both states are similar, having both midwestern influences in the north and southern influences in the south? Why did Missouri didn't stay as a southern state forever? Even at one time, both states were supposed to be in the Confederacy.
The same argument could be used about Maryland. Except that in your case it hasn't become the Northeast yet like you wish it would.
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Old 10-28-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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How did Missouri became a midwestern state, but not Kentucky, even though both states are similar, having both midwestern influences in the north and southern influences in the south? Why did Missouri didn't stay as a southern state forever? Even at one time, both states were supposed to be in the Confederacy.
Missouri had two large cities. Kentucky only has Louisville, which only has 600,000 people because of annexation
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Old 10-28-2014, 01:45 PM
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The same argument could be used about Maryland. Except that in your case it hasn't become the Northeast yet like you wish it would.
Maryland is at the southern end of the Northeastern Megalopolis and the Northeastern Corridor. Also borders two states that are similar to Maryland so how could the two bordering states be part of the northeast but not Maryland?

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Missouri had two large cities. Kentucky only has Louisville, which only has 600,000 people because of annexation
The two Missouri cities didn't annex anything outside their city limits so both cities are smaller than Louisville, Kentucky.
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Old 10-28-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Uh I guess. Whatever floats your thought process
You might not believe me but you should go up to the northeast and visit some of the historic examples yourself.
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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Maryland is at the southern end of the Northeastern Megalopolis and the Northeastern Corridor. Also borders two states that are similar to Maryland so how could the two bordering states be part of the northeast but not Maryland?



The two Missouri cities didn't annex anything outside their city limits so both cities are smaller than Louisville, Kentucky.
It borders two states that are similar called Virginia and West Virginia. Yet you conveniently leave that out. The Eastern Shore shares the Delmarva Peninsula with VA and the Western portion shares an Appalachian region with WV.

Kentucky borders Ohio and Southern Ohio is Similar to Kentucky. Should Ohio now be part of the South?

The Northeast megalopolis consists of two Southern cities.
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I think Missouri is more like Arkansas and Oklahoma than like Iowa or Wisconsin for sure. Its closest kin is definitely Kansas though. I think MO and KS are Midwestern but with very strong Southern influences.
Have to disagree here. Other than the Ozark area, Missouri isn't much like Oklahoma and Arkansas. St. Louis is sort of it's own kind of place and Kansas City isn't really like Kansas other than the fact that half of Kansas' population lives within 10 miles of the Mo State line. Northern Missouri is very much like Iowa. Probably KC and Omaha are the closest of kin in that region.

Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas are pretty tough to define in terms of the central region of the country.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:35 PM
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It borders two states that are similar called Virginia and West Virginia. Yet you conveniently leave that out. The Eastern Shore shares the Delmarva Peninsula with VA and the Western portion shares an Appalachian region with WV.

Kentucky borders Ohio and Southern Ohio is Similar to Kentucky. Should Ohio now be part of the South?

The Northeast megalopolis consists of two Southern cities.
The border between MD and VA on the Delmarva Peninsula has a very low population. This is where I would allow to use this as the border between the north and the south along with the Rappahannock River and halfway line through West Virginia.

Ohio should not be part of the South, but only Northern Kentucky is part of the North, the rest of Kentucky is still part of the South.

The two southern cities that you are talking about are both located in Maryland and the District of Columbia. This would make Maryland the only southern state in the northeastern megalopolis, maintaining the Mason Dixon Line of Pennsylvania/Delaware (north) and Maryland/West Virginia (south) as the border between the North and the South.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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If we're still only using the four official regions (Northeast, Midwest, South, and West) then none of them.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: PG County, MD
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The border between MD and VA on the Delmarva Peninsula has a very low population. This is where I would allow to use this as the border between the north and the south along with the Rappahannock River and halfway line through West Virginia.
The northern VA Tidewater and Southern MD are definitely southern (or at least more so than northern); the Rappahannock doesn't work either. No one's going to find an existing border that represents cultural divisions well, especially since there aren't any finite cultural changes in the area anyway.
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:02 PM
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The northern VA Tidewater and Southern MD are definitely southern (or at least more so than northern); the Rappahannock doesn't work either. No one's going to find an existing border that represents cultural divisions well, especially since there aren't any finite cultural changes in the area anyway.
Looks like we have to use the southern border of Delaware instead of the Rappahannock River and extend the border to wherever it touches the Ohio River. This time, it would split Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia into 2 regions.
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