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Old 03-10-2017, 08:26 PM
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Location: Miami
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There's a LOT of Southern cities that aren't Redneck, good luck finding a Country joint in Birmingham or Memphis.

 
Old 03-11-2017, 03:28 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Again, not seeing it in Utica and I live less than an hour away. Country music may be popular outside of the cities/urbanized areas in Upstate NY, but the cities themselves aren't going to have too many "rednecks". Utica is a very Italian city/area with substantial Black, Hispanic and Asian communities that are all individually diverse themselves. That is due to being a major refugee resettlement city, as are other Upstate NY cities.

You've just proved my point about York in terms of maybe parts of the rural parts outside of the city. Cities in Central PA are a different story.

Also, is country music a requirement for being a "redneck"?
I'll just leave these here...


Allentown

59% white
13% black
2% Asian
5% multiracial
43% Hispanic


Bethlehem

76% white
7% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
24% Hispanic


Camp Hill

89% white
2% black
7% Asian
2% multiracial
3% Hispanic


Carlisle

84% white
8% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
5% Hispanic


Chambersburg

77% white
9% black
1% Asian
4% multiracial
16% Hispanic


East Stroudsburg

79% white
11% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
12% Hispanic


Easton

67% white
17% black
2% Asian
5% multiracial
20% Hispanic


Gettysburg

85% white
6% black
2% Asian
3% multiracial
11% Hispanic


Harrisburg

31% white
52% black
4% Asian
5% multiracial
18% Hispanic


Hazleton

69% white
4% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
37% Hispanic


Lancaster

55% white
16% black
3% Asian
6% multiracial
39% Hispanic


Lebanon

74% white
6% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
32% Hispanic


Lewisburg

90% white
3% black
3% Asian
2% multiracial
4% Hispanic


Middletown

84% white
8% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
6% Hispanic


Mifflintown

87% white
1% black
0% Asian
4% multiracial
17% Hispanic


New Holland

88% white
3% black
3% Asian
2% multiracial
8% Hispanic


Reading

48% white
13% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
58% Hispanic


Scranton

84% white
5% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
10% Hispanic


Shenandoah

86% white
2% black
0% Asian
3% multiracial
17% Hispanic


State College

83% white
4% black
10% Asian
2% multiracial
4% Hispanic


Steelton

49% white
38% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
15% Hispanic


Stroudsburg

77% white
11% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
14% Hispanic


West Reading

78% white
9% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
18% Hispanic


Wilkes-Barre

79% white
11% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
11% Hispanic


Williamsport

81% white
14% black
1% Asian
4% multiracial
3% Hispanic


York

51% white
28% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
29% Hispanic


NOTE: The above are figures are from the 2010 Census, and the white, black, Asian and multiracial figures do NOT exclude Hispanics.


Here's a map highlighting every county in Pennsylvania west of the Philadelphia metropolitan area and east of the Allegheny Front:



In 2010, the counties highlighted had a combined population of 4,859,090. Of those 4,859,090 people, 4,120,815 were non-Hispanic white, which means that 738,275 were non-white and/or Hispanic. To put this in perspective, if you took all the non-white and/or Hispanic residents in the counties highlighted and put them in their own metropolitan area, you would have the fourth-largest metropolitan area in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Allentown/Bethlehem. Or, if you took them and put them in their own county, you would have the fourth-most populous county in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Allegheny and Montgomery.

Bear in mind that this does not include the Philadelphia metropolitan area at all, nor does it include Allegheny County either, which means that the counties highlighted are entirely in what's supposedly Lily-White Redneckville, and yet, 15.2% of the population in the counties highlighted was non-white and/or Hispanic in 2010. Now, if one out of every six or seven people in a given area is non-white and/or Hispanic, then it really doesn't qualify as lily-white after all. Also bear in mind that all the figures I've presented in this post are from 2010, so the non-white and Hispanic populations have only increased in the seven years since.

By the way, if Pennsylvania outside of the Philadelphia metropolitan area is now the epicenter of the redneck universe the way people on this God-forsaken website pretend it is, and non-whites and Hispanics live in terror every day that white people might wave Confederate flags in their faces or burn crosses on their lawns, then why are the non-white and Hispanic populations growing so rapidly in the counties highlighted? I mean, everything in Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia is just Biglerville writ large, isn't it? On a related note, how is it acceptable to conflate a borough with nine hundred-thousandths of one percent of the population of an entire Commonwealth for the entire population of said Commonwealth outside of its largest metropolitan area? That's just never made sense to me. I might as well use Twentynine Palms to judge all of California outside of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

P.S. If everybody around you is an *******, then you're the *******.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 05:14 AM
 
Location: SW Pennsylvania
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Although I like Ohio as a whole, something that irritates me is that some residents of that love to make fun of Kentucky, West Virginia, and to a smaller extent, Pennsylvania by calling them rednecks. They like to make fun of Michigan too, but it's mostly football related. My own family endured it when they moved there. It wasn't good natured fun either; it was very mean spirited. I even heard it when I was working in Columbus.


But some of the biggest rednecks I have met were from Ohio, born and raised with no roots to the above mentioned states.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Although I like Ohio as a whole, something that irritates me is that some residents of that love to make fun of Kentucky, West Virginia, and to a smaller extent, Pennsylvania by calling them rednecks.
You've noticed this too, I see.

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My own family endured it when they moved there. It wasn't good natured fun either; it was very mean spirited. I even heard it when I was working in Columbus.
Per my own direct experience and observation, the closer you get to Cleveland, the more mean-spirited and contemptuous it becomes, and it's gotten worse with time in Columbus as well. It's not really a problem in Cincinnati, though, and it doesn't seem to be a problem in Toledo either, from what I can tell. If anything, Cincinnati gets held in the same contempt by Cleveland that Pittsburgh does.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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I'd put places like Houston, Galveston Dallas, San Antonio, and much of South Texas on the non-Redneck list long before quite a few places people have been naming so far (i.e. Huntsville, Midland).
 
Old 03-11-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A lot of places throughout Florida are like this. You will find people doing redneckish stuff but you find out they or their parents are from Michigan, New York, etc.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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if you live in the south, you are a Southerner.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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if you live in the south, you are a Southerner.
And no.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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I'll just leave these here...


Allentown

59% white
13% black
2% Asian
5% multiracial
43% Hispanic


Bethlehem

76% white
7% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
24% Hispanic


Camp Hill

89% white
2% black
7% Asian
2% multiracial
3% Hispanic


Carlisle

84% white
8% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
5% Hispanic


Chambersburg

77% white
9% black
1% Asian
4% multiracial
16% Hispanic


East Stroudsburg

79% white
11% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
12% Hispanic


Easton

67% white
17% black
2% Asian
5% multiracial
20% Hispanic


Gettysburg

85% white
6% black
2% Asian
3% multiracial
11% Hispanic


Harrisburg

31% white
52% black
4% Asian
5% multiracial
18% Hispanic


Hazleton

69% white
4% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
37% Hispanic


Lancaster

55% white
16% black
3% Asian
6% multiracial
39% Hispanic


Lebanon

74% white
6% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
32% Hispanic


Lewisburg

90% white
3% black
3% Asian
2% multiracial
4% Hispanic


Middletown

84% white
8% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
6% Hispanic


Mifflintown

87% white
1% black
0% Asian
4% multiracial
17% Hispanic


New Holland

88% white
3% black
3% Asian
2% multiracial
8% Hispanic


Reading

48% white
13% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
58% Hispanic


Scranton

84% white
5% black
3% Asian
3% multiracial
10% Hispanic


Shenandoah

86% white
2% black
0% Asian
3% multiracial
17% Hispanic


State College

83% white
4% black
10% Asian
2% multiracial
4% Hispanic


Steelton

49% white
38% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
15% Hispanic


Stroudsburg

77% white
11% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
14% Hispanic


West Reading

78% white
9% black
2% Asian
4% multiracial
18% Hispanic


Wilkes-Barre

79% white
11% black
1% Asian
3% multiracial
11% Hispanic


Williamsport

81% white
14% black
1% Asian
4% multiracial
3% Hispanic


York

51% white
28% black
1% Asian
6% multiracial
29% Hispanic


NOTE: The above are figures are from the 2010 Census, and the white, black, Asian and multiracial figures do NOT exclude Hispanics.


Here's a map highlighting every county in Pennsylvania west of the Philadelphia metropolitan area and east of the Allegheny Front:



In 2010, the counties highlighted had a combined population of 4,859,090. Of those 4,859,090 people, 4,120,815 were non-Hispanic white, which means that 738,275 were non-white and/or Hispanic. To put this in perspective, if you took all the non-white and/or Hispanic residents in the counties highlighted and put them in their own metropolitan area, you would have the fourth-largest metropolitan area in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Allentown/Bethlehem. Or, if you took them and put them in their own county, you would have the fourth-most populous county in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Allegheny and Montgomery.

Bear in mind that this does not include the Philadelphia metropolitan area at all, nor does it include Allegheny County either, which means that the counties highlighted are entirely in what's supposedly Lily-White Redneckville, and yet, 15.2% of the population in the counties highlighted was non-white and/or Hispanic in 2010. Now, if one out of every six or seven people in a given area is non-white and/or Hispanic, then it really doesn't qualify as lily-white after all. Also bear in mind that all the figures I've presented in this post are from 2010, so the non-white and Hispanic populations have only increased in the seven years since.

By the way, if Pennsylvania outside of the Philadelphia metropolitan area is now the epicenter of the redneck universe the way people on this God-forsaken website pretend it is, and non-whites and Hispanics live in terror every day that white people might wave Confederate flags in their faces or burn crosses on their lawns, then why are the non-white and Hispanic populations growing so rapidly in the counties highlighted? I mean, everything in Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia is just Biglerville writ large, isn't it? On a related note, how is it acceptable to conflate a borough with nine hundred-thousandths of one percent of the population of an entire Commonwealth for the entire population of said Commonwealth outside of its largest metropolitan area? That's just never made sense to me. I might as well use Twentynine Palms to judge all of California outside of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

P.S. If everybody around you is an *******, then you're the *******.
Oh good lord........I'm just going to end this by saying, Spend a day In York or Lancaster country and tell me there aren't a large number of rednecks there.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craziaskowboi View Post
Here's a map highlighting every county in Pennsylvania west of the Philadelphia metropolitan area and east of the Allegheny Front:



In 2010, the counties highlighted had a combined population of 4,859,090. Of those 4,859,090 people, 4,120,815 were non-Hispanic white, which means that 738,275 were non-white and/or Hispanic. To put this in perspective, if you took all the non-white and/or Hispanic residents in the counties highlighted and put them in their own metropolitan area, you would have the fourth-largest metropolitan area in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Allentown/Bethlehem. Or, if you took them and put them in their own county, you would have the fourth-most populous county in Pennsylvania, behind only Philadelphia, Allegheny and Montgomery.

Bear in mind that this does not include the Philadelphia metropolitan area at all, nor does it include Allegheny County either, which means that the counties highlighted are entirely in what's supposedly Lily-White Redneckville, and yet, 15.2% of the population in the counties highlighted was non-white and/or Hispanic in 2010. Now, if one out of every six or seven people in a given area is non-white and/or Hispanic, then it really doesn't qualify as lily-white after all. Also bear in mind that all the figures I've presented in this post are from 2010, so the non-white and Hispanic populations have only increased in the seven years since.

By the way, if Pennsylvania outside of the Philadelphia metropolitan area is now the epicenter of the redneck universe the way people on this God-forsaken website pretend it is, and non-whites and Hispanics live in terror every day that white people might wave Confederate flags in their faces or burn crosses on their lawns, then why are the non-white and Hispanic populations growing so rapidly in the counties highlighted? I mean, everything in Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia is just Biglerville writ large, isn't it? On a related note, how is it acceptable to conflate a borough with nine hundred-thousandths of one percent of the population of an entire Commonwealth for the entire population of said Commonwealth outside of its largest metropolitan area? That's just never made sense to me. I might as well use Twentynine Palms to judge all of California outside of Los Angeles and San Francisco.

P.S. If everybody around you is an *******, then you're the *******.
I think another interesting data point for the cities you've listed would be the non-Hispanic white percentage, which would be lower than the overall white proportion. And in addition to the time that has elapsed since the 2010 census, there is a large difference between the younger and older age groups. As an example, cities that are 80% white overall may be just 70% non-Hispanic white for the general population, and 55% for residents under age 18. So the diversity levels in non-Philadelphia metro central and eastern Pennsylvania (like in much of the nation) are set to keep increasing in the future.
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