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Old 10-24-2014, 07:05 PM
Location: San Josť, CA
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Originally Posted by Mandalorian View Post
I like all of these besides the food one, and last time I checked you can pick what you eat.
You're the first person I've run into that views the chemical-induced, mass production of food as a net positive.

Old 10-24-2014, 08:52 PM
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Racism. It's disgusting
Old 10-24-2014, 09:58 PM
Location: Just outside of McDonough, Georgia
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1) The measurement system. Where did it all go wrong? We were one of the original signatories to the Metric Convention, Congress allowed use of the metric system in 1866, and in 1975, Congress passed the Metric Conversion Act. It seemed that we would move along to metric alongside the rest of the world! That wasn't the case; the voluntary nature of the switch, apathy, the elimination of the Metric Board in 1982, and Congress's rejection of US DOT efforts to switch to metric in the 1990s killed the metrication effort in this country (well, outside of Hawaii).

I understand not forcing private businesses to switch; it's in the nature of this country for the government to not tell private industry how to run their businesses. But why extend the exemption to public services (public schools, emergency services, roads, NWS, etc.)? Our biggest and most appreciated national service, the U.S. military, made the switch, and they're just fine. I fail to see why we can't have a gradual (say, fifteen-year) switch to metric in all public institutions.

2) Politics. Our electoral system favors two parties (FPTP/plurality voting), and despite the near lack of difference in our two major political parties, voting for a third option only spoils the result, thus leading to quite a bit of antipathy towards voting third party, in addition to an increase in voter apathy in general. We need a fairer electoral system that doesn't lock candidates out just because they're not GOP or Dem.

In addition, the rampant use of lobbying and donations of campaign dollars from wealthy donors and large corporations unduly influences our political system. We need to move to either a capped campaign finance system (each candidate can only spend a max of x dollars) or a publicly-funded system, where each candidate gets x dollars and that's all they get.

Finally, there's the polarization, which has become irrational in the last few years. It's getting more and more difficult just to have rational political discussion in this country; just look at what's happened on this very thread. Nobody wants to listen to others' opinions, and the few that do proceed to insult the other person just for having an opinion.

3) Infrastructure. It's utterly unacceptable that what it takes some countries (and no, I'm not talking about China or the Persian Gulf states) just a few years and a billion dollars to build, costs us billions of dollars and decades just to finish. Is it the unions? NIMBYs? Corrupt contractors? Property laws? That's not even mentioning our lack of infrastructure investment in this country (outside of roads, but even they're in variable shape). We used to be a leader in building infrastructure; subways, highways, roads, airports, internet, you name it; we led the world. Nowadays, we all seem...content...with what we have, and the few of us who try to raise this issue get called "socialists".

4) The irrational, fear-mongering, hysterically partisan media. The media is private, so we can't do much about this outside of bolstering PBS and NPR, which is practically a political non-starter. While there are obvious exceptions, I've noticed that in countries with established, editorially independent, and strong public service broadcasters, the media tends to be far less irrational, hysterical, and partisan. That's not the case in every country with such a system (the UK has the Daily Mail and the Sun, for example,) but it is in most.

5) Public education. We throw so much money at schools, but either a) it all ends up in the pockets of a few big corporations or corrupt school officials or b) it all ends up being for naught. Parents need to be more involved in their students' education, and teachers should be more free to experiment with how the material is presented to students. Oh, and we need to stop with the creationism/intelligent design stuff; in secular public schools, established science needs to be taught to the students, that includes stuff like evolution.

6) Our foreign policy. Sure, we're supposedly the "most powerful" country in the world. Aside from perks like the reserve currency, what has that gotten us? Illogical foreign wars...oops, I mean "police actions", the associated trillions of dollars in debt, and a growing anti-American stance in quite a few foreign countries. Like I said in a similar C-D post, I favor non-interventionism; let us engage with the world economically and in humanitarian terms, not for the sake of military adventure!

That's just a small sampling of things I HATE about this country.

- skbl17

Last edited by skbl17; 10-24-2014 at 10:17 PM..
Old 10-24-2014, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by llowllevellowll View Post
You're the first person I've run into that views the chemical-induced, mass production of food as a net positive.
I don't support it, I don't eat too much of that myself.

But no one is forcing people to eat chemical heavy foods, you can eat or not eat whatever you want. The list that other guy presented was a net positive.
Old 10-24-2014, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CurlyFries View Post
* Not enough walking trails or bike trails (too car centric)
* Not enough public transportation options
* The cost to go to college
* The lack of motivation and culture outside of big cities
* How extreme the gender roles are compared to other first world countries
* Our food is loaded with chemicals
* Very low wages
* Schools and healthcare don't get funded enough
* It's the king of capitalism
Nice list.

I also liked the mention of entitlement, though I'd argue that it IS shaped by socio-economics and cultural background. There's no doubt that it is a major flaw among many young folks from the US.

Also, the 2nd post of the thread was terrific. There is a lot of exploitation of labor in this country and lots of people that work way too hard, taking time away from their families, to make the few disgustingly wealthy. It is excessive and sickening.

Our health care system, similarly, is an illustration of wealthy people exploiting the masses. Our health insurance system is horrid; an embarrassment.

The anti-intellectualism of the US has always troubled me.
Old 10-24-2014, 10:32 PM
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