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Old 10-25-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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As the north east megalopolis continues to grow, do you see mid sized cities in the region becoming large cities themselves? Such as Allentown PA, Trenton NJ, Hartford CT, Frederick MD, Providence RI, etc? or will these cities actually die out as their populations gravitate toward the major centers?
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Old 10-25-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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As the north east megalopolis continues to grow, do you see mid sized cities in the region becoming large cities themselves? Such as Allentown PA, Trenton NJ, Hartford CT, Frederick MD, Providence RI, etc? or will these cities actually die out as their populations gravitate toward the major centers?
If anything, they will be somewhere in the middle and stay pretty much steady, give or take. Why do you ask?
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Old 10-25-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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because ive been looking to moving to a mid sized city in the region, and was wondering if it has potential to become big time in the future. particularly allentown-bethlehem.
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Old 10-25-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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because ive been looking to moving to a mid sized city in the region, and was wondering if it has potential to become big time in the future. particularly allentown-bethlehem.
Not so much. If anywhere in that region I would say perhaps Harrisburg-Lancaster or further south to Fredericksburg VA which while not mid-sized yet, certainly seems destined with impending growth from Washington DC and to a lesser extent Richmond.
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Old 10-25-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Currently, I'd say that the Albany-Schenectady-Troy area is the mid sized area that is doing the best in terms of its economy and population growth. It actually has/had the fastest growing county in the state in Saratoga County.

Harrisburg seems to be doing pretty good as well. Rochester has actually been a pretty steady metro in spite of big business jobs declining, as talent from the area leave those companies to form smaller companies. Buffalo has had a billion dollars invested into it by the state, but the results may take a while to come to pass.

If you don't mind smaller areas, look into Ithaca, Burlington and State College.
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Old 10-25-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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because ive been looking to moving to a mid sized city in the region, and was wondering if it has potential to become big time in the future. particularly allentown-bethlehem.
Unlikely in your lifetime..maybe there could be some random big boom, but highly unlikely.
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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As the north east megalopolis continues to grow, do you see mid sized cities in the region becoming large cities themselves? Such as Allentown PA, Trenton NJ, Hartford CT, Frederick MD, Providence RI, etc? or will these cities actually die out as their populations gravitate toward the major centers?
I could see Jersey City growing more, but not Trenton. JC's lower prices than NYC and it's proximity to NYC, with easy transit methods right into Manhattan, make JC desirable. Cities like that may grow, but I don't think they will every become "large" or "major" because in the NE corridor at least, there is already a heavy concentration of large cities and I don't think others will grow to match them.
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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Frederick,Md will grow as far as residential and retail development and it is doing so at a quick pace.The problem is jobs,all the jobs being created by the development are low wage,part time,retail/hospitality.If you are a professional,there are limited jobs,as their are no major corporations doing business here,in fact Bechtel is leaving for VA.

I would pass on this area for that reason as well as housing prices here are totally out of line with reality for an area with no jobs.
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Old 10-25-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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Sorry,should have used there.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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First, it's worth mentioning that both Allentown and Frederick are actually at all-time population highs today.

Secondly, keep in mind that in the Northeast, cities are surrounded by incorporated suburbs for the most part (unless you count MD/DE as being in the Northeast). The area around them is built out as well. As such, you cannot expect Sun Belt levels of population growth anywhere in the Northeast any time soon, unless major "densification" of the existing urban fabric happens.

A better question is "will mid-sized cities gentrify?" The answer here is yes. In nearly every state you're seeing some examples of this. They are mostly split into two groups.

1. "Urban suburbs" of major cities. Basically this is where there is a continual urban fabric which spreads from the core city into adjoining areas, and technically independent cities come along for the ride. For Boston, Cambridge and Somerville are the classic examples, but further removed cities like Lynn, Salem, Watertown, and Waltham also qualify. For NYC, Hoboken and Jersey City (in the Downtown area) apply. Philly doesn't have as many, but downtown Camden does have a little gentrification now, and many of the outlying smaller walkable boroughs (Conshohocken, Phoenixville, etc.) have become trendy.

2. There are also cases where an independent city has seen gentrification due to a local college or university spurring development. Examples include Lowell, MA (UMASS), New Haven, CT (Yale + other colleges), Bethlehem, PA (Lehigh University), and Lancaster, PA (Franklin & Marshall College). Usually the demand spurred by the university is small enough it's really only Downtown and maybe one side of town that sees a revival, but it's enough to get a nice walkable business district going.

There are also a few oddball cities out there. New Bedford, MA has come back to a certain extent around Downtown. The northern New England cities are all pretty universally nice, although they never went through a bad period. But in most cases if you don't have something there to draw younger people in, smaller cities aren't going to "turn" since the pull of major metros is just too great.
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