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Old 11-10-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Where do the largest group of citizens in Las Vegas come from?

Where does Las Vegas get its gas? Its aviation fuel? From where are its grocery stores stocked? Its Dept Stores? To what location do the Las Vegas warehouses distribute?

You are getting fooled by the 4 hour trip. But the trucks make a round trip each day. Close 15 and Las Vegas starts to run out of everything in a week.
So, by your logic, any city that's the main distribution hub for it's given region makes it's entire region a "suburb"? But somehow I'm the one "getting fooled" by hundreds of miles of open, undeveloped land not being continuous suburbia?

Give me some of whatever you're smoking.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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I've also heard Phoenix referred to as the easternmost suburb of LA as well as the westernmost suburb of Chicago. They are more like expressions than anything else, not to be taken literally.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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I've also heard Phoenix referred to as the easternmost suburb of LA as well as the westernmost suburb of Chicago. They are more like expressions than anything else, not to be taken literally.
He seems serious enough about it though. His words:

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And Las Vegas is actually the most eastern suburb of Los Angeles.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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So, by your logic, any city that's the main distribution hub for it's given region makes it's entire region a "suburb"? But somehow I'm the one "getting fooled" by hundreds of miles of open, undeveloped land not being continuous suburbia?

Give me some of whatever you're smoking.
You are entitled to your opinion.

The place reeks of So. CA. The housing style and tract construction. The laws...

Ohh there are some great differences...taxes for one...but lots of similarities and dependencies.

But it is still a fair observation as you try to understand Las Vegas.

Phoenix is quite different and no where near as dependent on anywhere else.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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But geographically they are hopelessly southwestern and draw water from the Colorado. That makes you hard core southwestern.

The dwellers in So CA can think whatever they like...but they still drink Colorado River Water.
New Mexicans do not drink Colorado River water. Does that mean New Mexico is not the Southwest?

Also, if I drink bottled water from France am I Franco-American?
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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New Mexicans do not drink Colorado River water. Does that mean New Mexico is not the Southwest?

Also, if I drink bottled water from France am I Franco-American?
It is a parameter that tends to include a state. Geography is the key one and both Southern CA and New Mexico are obviously in the SW.

I would put it more that Southern CA attempts to remove themselves from the obvious geography. The Colorado River water is a counter argument to that view.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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You are entitled to your opinion.

The place reeks of So. CA. The housing style and tract construction. The laws...

Ohh there are some great differences...taxes for one...but lots of similarities and dependencies.

But it is still a fair observation as you try to understand Las Vegas.

Phoenix is quite different and no where near as dependent on anywhere else.
Oh, I see. So similar housing styles (which is really only similar with the actual suburbs of L.A. and not L.A. proper) and construction makes Los Angeles and Las Vegas part of the same metro. Got it.

By the way, the laws are actually very different between the two, but why let that pesky little fact get in the way?

I would continue to make a list of the vast differences, but to most people who are familiar with that part of the country it would be extremely redundant and unnecessary. I guess I'll just have to change my definitions of what constitutes "suburbs" from now on. From here on out, the cities of Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Oklahoma City, and Tulsa are all part of the DFW metroplex... Boston, Philly, D.C., Baltimore, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, and Pittsburgh are all suburbs of NYC... the entire Upper Midwest is Chicagoland... Portland and Spokane are suburbs of Seattle... and the entire Southeast is metro Atlanta. Right.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:08 PM
 
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You are entitled to your opinion.

The place reeks of So. CA. The housing style and tract construction. The laws...

Ohh there are some great differences...taxes for one...but lots of similarities and dependencies.

But it is still a fair observation as you try to understand Las Vegas.

Phoenix is quite different and no where near as dependent on anywhere else.
I don't know. Phoenix has always had a SoCal influence as well. The housing and construction style you mention is also similar in Phoenix. I think you could consider the Inland Empire, Vegas, and Phoenix as some sort of megaregion. There is a lot interaction between the 3 areas. I think Phoenix is way more connected to Vegas and LA than it is Albuquerque or El Paso or any cities that are considered classically Southwestern. However all 3 cities have their differences too. LA has deeper roots and is more established. I think Vegas and Phoenix are more transient. If fact away from the strip it is really hard to tell Vegas and many parts of Phoenix apart.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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I don't know. Phoenix has always had a SoCal influence as well. The housing and construction style you mention is also similar in Phoenix. I think you could consider the Inland Empire, Vegas, and Phoenix as some sort of megaregion. There is a lot interaction between the 3 areas. I think Phoenix is way more connected to Vegas and LA than it is Albuquerque or El Paso or any cities that are considered classically Southwestern. However all 3 cities have their differences too. LA has deeper roots and is more established. I think Vegas and Phoenix are more transient. If fact away from the strip it is really hard to tell Vegas and many parts of Phoenix apart.
Thank you. One word can make all the difference.

"Megaregion" =/= "suburb"
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