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Old 11-21-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: 304
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The lack of "character" cookie cutter and lack of downtown culture is the turning point for Atlanta not being a world class city?

Things like G.D.P, Fortune 500 companies, home to Home Depot, USPS, Coke a Cola, Delta and Aflac, having 1,300 foreign based companies and being in a state with a very pro business climate is more important than the set up of its residential neighborhoods and the lack of character.

No one is going to view places like Charleston and Savannah higher than Atlanta because they have some old brick buildings...
yes in fact it is the turning point. No Charleston and Savannah aren't more world class than Atlanta, but they do have something that Atlanta lacks which is a character. If Atlanta had the vibe that Savannah has, with the economy that it has now, then it would most certainly be a world class city. However, it is too bland and culturally uninviting for the designation of "world-class". In my opinion!

Having those businesses is great, and I applaud Atlanta on its growth in being a major player in the economy. But it still isn't a place that I'd recommend to a foreigner to visit. It simply has no taste to it. Glass boxes in downtown, typical suburbia everywhere else.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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yes in fact it is the turning point. No Charleston and Savannah aren't more world class than Atlanta, but they do have something that Atlanta lacks which is a character. If Atlanta had the vibe that Savannah has, with the economy that it has now, then it would most certainly be a world class city. However, it is too bland and culturally uninviting for the designation of "world-class". In my opinion!

Having those businesses is great, and I applaud Atlanta on its growth in being a major player in the economy. But it still isn't a place that I'd recommend to a foreigner to visit. It simply has no taste to it. Glass boxes in downtown, typical suburbia everywhere else.
I agree. In this case, you can put Atlanta and Charlotte in the same neighborhood. The two big "New South" meccas, but they're not that historic like Savannah or Charleston.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Cool, i just don't find old buildings and museums that important honestly.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: City of Atlanta
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yes in fact it is the turning point. No Charleston and Savannah aren't more world class than Atlanta, but they do have something that Atlanta lacks which is a character. If Atlanta had the vibe that Savannah has, with the economy that it has now, then it would most certainly be a world class city. However, it is too bland and culturally uninviting for the designation of "world-class". In my opinion!

Having those businesses is great, and I applaud Atlanta on its growth in being a major player in the economy. But it still isn't a place that I'd recommend to a foreigner to visit. It simply has no taste to it. Glass boxes in downtown, typical suburbia everywhere else.
I feel that you are just so far off the mark. Atlanta is more than just "downtown." There are dozens of distinct neighborhoods, many with their own unique, defining characteristics. You've said you haven't visited much and mainly just stay downtown. Next time you visit, expand your horizons and visit neighborhoods like Midtown (especially east of Peachtree St.), Old Fourth Ward, Inman Park, Cabbagetown, Sweet Auburn, Poncey-Highland, Grant Park, East Atlanta, Castleberry Hill, West End, or Decatur.

Lots of people aren't going to like Atlanta. But saying it lacks character is just a falsehood. Character it has, but its characteristics do not yet coalesce in people's minds like those of New York, L.A., Chicago, Miami, Seattle, etc.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Mt. Airy
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Cool, i just don't find old buildings and museums that important honestly.
I find both more important than the number of Fortune 500 companies personally. They both speak to history, education and culture. Very important IMO.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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I guess this comes down to how we are defining world class. If by world class you mean, a world class urban city with ritz shopping streets, pedestrian activity, quality architecture, public transit, world class parks, etc, then:

Boston is clear the top choice. IMO, it is pretty close to DC in that department.
Philly is probably the 2nd choice, it is a little more
Seattle is up and coming, but seems to be the emerging "next world class urban American city"
Miami- isn't necessarily a world class city, but it is arguably a world class travel destination, with South Beach and what not.

Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, etc are all major world class economic regions, but aren't really world class urban centers just yet.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:14 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I find both more important than the number of Fortune 500 companies personally. They both speak to history, education and culture. Very important IMO.
Now that is interesting...
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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I guess this comes down to how we are defining world class. If by world class you mean, a world class urban city with ritz shopping streets, pedestrian activity, quality architecture, public transit, world class parks, etc, then:

Boston is clear the top choice. IMO, it is pretty close to DC in that department.
Philly is probably the 2nd choice, it is a little more
Seattle is up and coming, but seems to be the emerging "next world class urban American city"
Miami- isn't necessarily a world class city, but it is arguably a world class travel destination, with South Beach and what not.

Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, etc are all major world class economic regions, but aren't really world class urban centers just yet.
My point exactly. Seattle is not a WORLD class city, it's a major American city.
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Old 11-21-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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World Class/Global

Alpha+
New York City
Los Angeles

Alpha:
Chicago
San Francisco
Washington D.C.
Boston
Miami

Alpha-:
Philadelphia
Houston
Dallas
Atlanta

Beta+:
Seattle
Denver

Beta:
San Diego
Minneapolis

All other US cities are Beta- or lower imo.
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Old 11-21-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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Personally the only US world class cities are LA, NY, Chicago, and SF

Next tier are Philly and Boston
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