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Old 11-21-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Personally the only US world class cities are LA, NY, Chicago, and SF

Next tier are Philly and Boston
You forgot DC..... Wow
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Old 11-21-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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You forgot DC..... Wow
You're right. Add DC
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: 304
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I feel that you are just so far off the mark. Atlanta is more than just "downtown." There are dozens of distinct neighborhoods, many with their own unique, defining characteristics. You've said you haven't visited much and mainly just stay downtown. Next time you visit, expand your horizons and visit neighborhoods like Midtown (especially east of Peachtree St.), Old Fourth Ward, Inman Park, Cabbagetown, Sweet Auburn, Poncey-Highland, Grant Park, East Atlanta, Castleberry Hill, West End, or Decatur.

Lots of people aren't going to like Atlanta. But saying it lacks character is just a falsehood. Character it has, but its characteristics do not yet coalesce in people's minds like those of New York, L.A., Chicago, Miami, Seattle, etc.
My question is, are these neighborhoods really world class? Because if they can't compare with neighborhoods in Amsterdam, Hong Kong, and London, then it's not world class IMO. Being the HQ for Home Depot isn't that impressive on a world stage. Delta and Coke are a pretty big deal. Again, there isn't enough character as a city to make it world class.
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Damn Sherman for destroying the city! Maybe Atlanta would have more historic homes/buildings, then! Haha
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:09 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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My question is, are these neighborhoods really world class? Because if they can't compare with neighborhoods in Amsterdam, Hong Kong, and London, then it's not world class IMO. Being the HQ for Home Depot isn't that impressive on a world stage. Delta and Coke are a pretty big deal. Again, there isn't enough character as a city to make it world class.
Problem with this is that it is all a personal perspective... a lot of people don't care for old buildings and museums so it doesn't really make a place more or less world class.
Economic factors play a huge role in deciding if a city is World Class.... everybody loves money.
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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My question is, are these neighborhoods really world class? Because if they can't compare with neighborhoods in Amsterdam, Hong Kong, and London, then it's not world class IMO. Being the HQ for Home Depot isn't that impressive on a world stage. Delta and Coke are a pretty big deal. Again, there isn't enough character as a city to make it world class.
So what's the difference between Seattle and Atlanta. You think Seattle is more of a world class city than Atlanta? That makes no sense.
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Define a "world class city" to be one that has an indelible global cultural impact. If the city had never existed, popular concepts of America, as well as its actual global footprint would be fundamentally different.

NYC definitely meets this criteria. The other runner-ups are Chicago, Los Angeles, and either Houston or Dallas. Remove any one of those, and America seems like a fundamentally different place. Comparatively, Boston, DC and others seem fairly quaint.

But if there is one US city that will likely end up sharing the status as the American world-class city with NYC, it will be the Bay Area/SF metro. It shares a cultural fault line with emerging Asian powers (much like NYC shared with Europe in the 19th/20th centuries), its companies are swallowing large portions of the global economy (i.e., the music industry is now Itunes or youtube, much like 19th and 20th century NYC financiers), and it increasingly inspires a range of emotions to anyone on the globe: admiration, envy, hope, etc. All of this will likely intensify

NYC will likely be the popular choice but if one is looking at actual global impact -- particularly, from an Asian or non-European POV -- it is the Bay Area, with SF (ironically, a bedroom community for Silicon Valley) being its symbol.
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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Define a "world class city" to be one that has an indelible global cultural impact. If the city had never existed, popular concepts of America, as well as its actual global footprint would be fundamentally different.

NYC definitely meets this criteria. The other runner-ups are Chicago, Los Angeles, and either Houston or Dallas. Remove any one of those, and America seems like a fundamentally different place. Comparatively, Boston, DC and others seem fairly quaint.

But if there is one US city that will likely end up sharing the status as the American world-class city with NYC, it will be the Bay Area/SF metro. It shares a cultural fault line with emerging Asian powers (much like NYC shared with Europe in the 19th/20th centuries), its companies are swallowing large portions of the global economy (i.e., the music industry is now Itunes or youtube, much like 19th and 20th century NYC financiers), and it increasingly inspires a range of emotions to anyone on the globe: admiration, envy, hope, etc. All of this will likely intensify

NYC will likely be the popular choice but if one is looking at actual global impact -- particularly, from an Asian or non-European POV -- it is the Bay Area, with SF (a bedroom community for silicon valley) being its symbol.

So you're saying Houston and Dallas are above SF and DC as being world class?
That's a joke considering they are already world class cities. Also, just because a city has rowhomes or has historical architecure does not mean its quaint. DC is not quaint.....
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Define a "world class city" to be one that has an indelible global cultural impact. If the city had never existed, popular concepts of America, as well as its actual global footprint would be fundamentally different.

NYC definitely meets this criteria. The other runner-ups are Chicago, Los Angeles, and either Houston or Dallas. Remove any one of those, and America seems like a fundamentally different place. Comparatively, Boston, DC and others seem fairly quaint.

But if there is one US city that will likely end up sharing the status as the American world-class city with NYC, it will be the Bay Area/SF metro. It shares a cultural fault line with emerging Asian powers (much like NYC shared with Europe in the 19th/20th centuries), its companies are swallowing large portions of the global economy (i.e., the music industry is now Itunes or youtube, much like 19th and 20th century NYC financiers), and it increasingly inspires a range of emotions to anyone on the globe: admiration, envy, hope, etc. All of this will likely intensify

NYC will likely be the popular choice but if one is looking at actual global impact -- particularly, from an Asian or non-European POV -- it is the Bay Area, with SF (ironically, a bedroom community for Silicon Valley) being its symbol.
Even accounting for an Asian perspective, in no way does SF top NYC for global impact. There are so many things NYC does to impact the global economy/zeitgiest that SF/Bay Area seems like a comparative one trick pony (tech).

I'd also argue that Boston and DC are not quaint. One is arguably the most powerful city on Earth, with huge global ramifications. The other is our country's premier bastion of higher learning. Not quaint in the slightest...
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Mt. Airy
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Problem with this is that it is all a personal perspective... a lot of people don't care for old buildings and museums so it doesn't really make a place more or less world class.
Economic factors play a huge role in deciding if a city is World Class.... everybody loves money.
So, what defines a city to you? What makes a great city?
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