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Missouri Maryland and Delaware don't belong in that group at all. They are not Southern states but from a modern standpoint Northern states with Southern influences.
You could argue they have as much in common with the Southern group as the Northern group, if not more. It's certainly not a huge stretch to lump those states with the Southern group. It's not an easy mission classifying 50 states into just 5 distinct groups. Of course there's going to be some crossover.
You could argue they have as much in common with the Southern group as the Northern group, if not more. It's certainly not a huge stretch to lump those states with the Southern group. It's not an easy mission classifying 50 states into just 5 distinct groups. Of course there's going to be some crossover.
Are you kidding me no you could not. Culturally linguistically and in most ways demographically and politically those states resemble the lower Midwest and Northeast. Kansas City, St. Louis, Wilmington and for the most part Baltimore and D.C. have nothing in common with the South from a modern standpoint as well as Cincinnati. You obviously know nothing about these places from a modern standpoint. You know that's true so there is no way from a modern standpoint you could make just as much or more arguments that those states are Southern. Just a matter of time before BajanYankee, Eddieolskool, and wolf39us make their guest appearances.
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Are you kidding me no you could not. Culturally linguistically and in most ways demographically and politically those states resemble the lower Midwest and Northeast. Kansas City, St. Louis, Wilmington and for the most part Baltimore and D.C. have nothing in common with the South from a modern standpoint as well as Cincinnati. You obviously know nothing about these places from a modern standpoint. You know that's true so there is no way from a modern standpoint you could make just as much or more arguments that those states are Southern. Just a matter of time before BajanYankee, Eddieolskool, and wolf39us make their guest appearances.
It's closer than you're willing to admit. I'm not sure why you disagree so strongly. Coming from a Northern perspective (lived in Mpls, Chicago, and Cleveland, as well as Columbus and St. Louis) I see a glaring difference between states like Missouri and Minnesota linguistically and culturally. St. Louis is about the only thing in Missoura that keeps it somewhat Northern, but the rest of the state feels like a different world than most Northern states along the Great Lakes (with the exception of Ohio, Illinois and Indiana along their central and southern portions), but my perspective is from the major cities in those states, which may create a bias.
It's closer than you're willing to admit. I'm not sure why you disagree so strongly. Coming from a Northern perspective (lived in Mpls, Chicago, and Cleveland, as well as Columbus and St. Louis) I see a glaring difference between states like Missouri and Minnesota linguistically and culturally. St. Louis is about the only thing in Missoura that keeps it somewhat Northern, but the rest of the state feels like a different world than most Northern states along the Great Lakes (with the exception of Ohio, Illinois and Indiana along their central and southern portions), but my perspective is from the major cities in those states, which may create a bias.
It's closer than you're willing to admit. I'm not sure why you disagree so strongly. Coming from a Northern perspective (lived in Mpls, Chicago, and Cleveland, as well as Columbus and St. Louis) I see a glaring difference between states like Missouri and Minnesota linguistically and culturally. St. Louis is about the only thing in Missoura that keeps it somewhat Northern, but the rest of the state feels like a different world than most Northern states along the Great Lakes (with the exception of Ohio, Illinois and Indiana along their central and southern portions), but my perspective is from the major cities in those states, which may create a bias.
Kansas City is quite Northern as well and Those two cities aren't the only things keeping Missouri in the Midwest. The Midwest is divided into two regions the Upper and Lower Midwest. Every region has glaring differences within it culturally and linguistically just look at the Northeast. The lower Midwest has Southern influences and this area constitutes all of Missouri, all of Kansas and 2/3 of Illinois, Indiana and Ohio. No region is a homogenous mixture and the extreme ends will have glaring differences. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and New Jersey are glaringly different from New England culturally and linguistically. So your argument ultimately fails to make a point.
Typical of someone who knows nothing about the state. The southern quarter not the Southern half. The upper portion of the Southern half is a transition zone. It doesn't go from being solidly Midwestern in St. Louis to purely Southern just South of there. You aren't in the true South until you reach Sikeston and Springfield.
Not true at all. The Upper quarter of the Southern half is a transition zone between Midwestern and Southern. You aren't in the South until you've reached Springfield and Sikeston which are in the southernmost quarter of the state.
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