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Old 12-01-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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Typical of someone who knows nothing about the state. The southern quarter not the Southern half. The upper portion of the Southern half is a transition zone. It doesn't go from being solidly Midwestern in St. Louis to purely Southern just South of there. You aren't in the true South until you reach Sikeston and Springfield.
Chill out I'm on your side. It was just an opinion
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Old 12-01-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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The southern half of Missouri is very southern.
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Chill out I'm on your side. It was just an opinion
Ok fine sorry.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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OK, I'll bite... What do your labels mean?
This. I like the map but how do I crack the code of the labels?
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Kansas City is quite Northern as well and Those two cities aren't the only things keeping Missouri in the Midwest. The Midwest is divided into two regions the Upper and Lower Midwest. Every region has glaring differences within it culturally and linguistically just look at the Northeast. The lower Midwest has Southern influences and this area constitutes all of Missouri, all of Kansas and 2/3 of Illinois, Indiana and Ohio. No region is a homogenous mixture and the extreme ends will have glaring differences. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and New Jersey are glaringly different from New England culturally and linguistically. So your argument ultimately fails to make a point.
We're having different arguments: I'm talking about North vs. South, and you're talking about Midwest vs. South. I'm not denying Missouri is a Midwestern state at all, but if I had to lump it together with quintessential North/Great Lakes states or what's being dubbed the "Southern group", I'm arguing that it has as much pull to the South as it does to the NORTH, if not more. Or, in other words, that discussion is worth arguing because it's a close call.........in my opinion. Furthermore, the Great Lakes states we're talking about all (but Iowa) have one thing in common: direct access to a Great Lake. Missouri does not, but has a lot in common with states in 4 of the adjacent regions (Northwest, Great Lakes, Southwest and South).

How about we just make 6 groups, and add a title for "misfits" like MO?
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Old 12-02-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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5 is pretty limiting, but here goes:
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We're having different arguments: I'm talking about North vs. South, and you're talking about Midwest vs. South. I'm not denying Missouri is a Midwestern state at all, but if I had to lump it together with quintessential North/Great Lakes states or what's being dubbed the "Southern group", I'm arguing that it has as much pull to the South as it does to the NORTH, if not more. Or, in other words, that discussion is worth arguing because it's a close call.........in my opinion. Furthermore, the Great Lakes states we're talking about all (but Iowa) have one thing in common: direct access to a Great Lake. Missouri does not, but has a lot in common with states in 4 of the adjacent regions (Northwest, Great Lakes, Southwest and South).

How about we just make 6 groups, and add a title for "misfits" like MO?
No it's the same argument. Midwest is the same thing as Northern. Missouri does not have a Southern pull equal to its Midwestern pull. Having lived in this state for almost three decades I think I would know that better than you.
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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It's not an easy mission classifying 50 states into just 5 distinct groups.
The OP said groups of five, not five groups.
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Old 12-02-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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How long are you going to keep this name St Louisan??
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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6 Groups would make more sense imo but okay 5 groups...
Why would you separate Iowa and Nebraska but lump Washington state and New Mexico together?
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Why would you separate Iowa and Nebraska but lump Washington state and New Mexico together?
That's why i said 6 regions makes more sense than 5, that would make the Eastern half of the "Yellow" region a different region but to answer your question... Politics.
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Old 12-03-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Pennsylvania should be in a Mid-Atlantic group, unless you're going for a "Rust belt" grouping of some sort.

Minnesota could belong to a Great Lakes grouping, or a Great Plains/Upper Midwest grouping (IOwa, NEB, SD, ND), etc..
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