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View Poll Results: Is Michigan More Like Minnesota or Upstate New York
Minnesota 54 58.70%
Upstate New York 38 41.30%
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Is Michigan more like Minnesota or Upstate New York?

Though Michigan borders neither state, it has similarities to both, but which state mirrors Michigan the most?

Consider climate, people, economy, culture, immigrant communities, religion, politics, geography, the arts, sports mascots, or any other criteria that you might think of.

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Old 11-26-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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My primary destination when visiting Upstate NY in the past was usually the mountain areas of the Adirondacks, or the gorges and waterfalls around Ithaca. In topographical terms Michigan doesn't really have an answer to either region to which Upstate NY is fairly well known for, and then throw Niagara Falls in for good measure. I'd have to say Michigan is probably more like Minnesota.

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Old 11-26-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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I'm saying New York.

Three words: lake effect snow.
Both also have mild summers and gloomy winters.
Tornados are rare in Michigan and New York, but fairly common in Minnesota.
Both are know for cherries and apples.
Both are economically depressed.
Both are very Catholic and very Polish.
Both have very few, if any, Lutherans.
The people in Michigan and New York seem to be more reserved and less outgoing than those in Minnesota.
While both are Democratic, Michigan and Upstate New York reflect a populist, blue-collar version of liberalism that is lacking in Minnesota.
Both have a similar accents.
Both are completely wooded, while Minnesota is mostly prairie.

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Old 11-26-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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I'm saying New York.

Both have mild summers and gloomy winters.
Both are know for cherries and apples.
Both are economically depressed.
Both are very Catholic and very Polish.
Both have very few, if any, Lutherans.
The people in Michigan and New York seem to be more reserved and less outgoing than those in Minnesota.
While both Democratic, they both reflect a populist, blue-collar version of liberalism that is lacking in Minnesota.
Both have a similar accents.
Both are completely wooded, while Minnesota is mostly prairie.
There are plenty of Lutherans in Michigan. Not as many as in Minnesota, but a lot more than in New York.

I think it really depends on where in Michigan you are though, and where you are in either Minnesota or New York. If you're comparing Iron Mountain to Duluth or New York City, Minnesota would be your choice. But if you're comparing suburban Detroit to suburban Buffalo or Morehead, I would say that New York would be more similar.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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I'm saying New York.

Three words: lake effect snow.
Both also have mild summers and gloomy winters.
Tornados are rare in Michigan and New York, but fairly common in Minnesota.
Both are know for cherries and apples.
Both are economically depressed.
Both are very Catholic and very Polish.
Both have very few, if any, Lutherans.
The people in Michigan and New York seem to be more reserved and less outgoing than those in Minnesota.
While both are Democratic, Michigan and Upstate New York reflect a populist, blue-collar version of liberalism that is lacking in Minnesota.
Both have a similar accents.
Both are completely wooded, while Minnesota is mostly prairie.
While there are similarities, it just depends on many things. For instance, during my time in college in MI, I noticed that people from the Upper Peninsula had more in common ethnically with MN and WI due to the strong Scandinavian character there. Even the teams they like were many times from those 2 states as well(Packers, Vikings, etc).

Also, Western MI is known for its strong Christian character in connection with the Dutch Reformed Church. While Upstate NY can have a strong Catholic character in parts, I can't think of any as staunch as Western MI.

Economically, both can vary, depending on the area and industry.

Upstate NY has more hills/valleys and mountains.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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I'm saying New York.

Both are completely wooded, while Minnesota is mostly prairie.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Most of the southern half of Michigan is open farmland. Wooded areas are definitely more characteristic of the UP and northern Lower Peninsula. In that sense, it's more similar to Minnesota than it is New York.





Culturally, Michigan is pretty similar to Minnesota, however, Metro Detroit itself is more similar to NYC than it is to the Twin Cities. Many immigrants (and even current residents) who locate in Detroit originally lived in NYC/NYS at some point, and throughout history there were many prominent people and settlers from New York that usually had a secondary or prominent influence in SE Michigan by way of the Erie Canal. At the very least, Detroit has more East Coast than Midwestern roots if compared to the Twin Cities.

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Old 11-26-2014, 07:40 PM
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Living in Michigan, I'd say it's closer to neither, but if I had to choose I'd say Minnesota. Upstate New York has no farmland.
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Old 11-26-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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Living in Michigan, I'd say it's closer to neither, but if I had to choose I'd say Minnesota. Upstate New York has no farmland.
That is not true about Upstate NY not having farmland.

Also, you will notice communities in MI with the same names you see in Upstate NY like Livonia, Farmington, Ithaca, Onondaga, Lansing, Auburn, Caledonia, Mount Morris, DeWitt, Waverly, Brighton and Williamstown, among others.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Ann Arbor and Eastern Michigan has always reminded me of NY.
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