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Old 12-11-2018, 10:14 PM
 
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I would say every state that borders Illinois is not happy about it.
I guess you don't know everything, then. I love bordering Chicago....it's a great city.
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:40 PM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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I guess you don't know everything, then. I love bordering Chicago....it's a great city.
I certainly don’t know everything. And I love Chicago as well, while at the same time I’m very mindful of its material errors over the past three decades. But my mentality, and your mentality, isn’t necessarily the mentality of an average joe from Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. And I do think that Illinois is a cautionary tale in many regards for the rest of the Midwest. I hope you don’t need me to elaborate further.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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I guess you don't know everything, then. I love bordering Chicago....it's a great city.
Me too. I don't hear any negative talk about Illinois (or Chicago) here in Milwaukee. I'm guessing any animus comes from our rural dwellers hating on the big city down in Illinois. But then again they're the same people that hate Milwaukee and Madison. From what I understand, people from Milwaukee visit Chicago pretty regularly and vice versa. I was just in Chicago last week.

If WI compares itself to anyone it's MN. And truthfully, MN is winning.

Growing up practically straddling the Ohio/Michigan line the rivalry was taught in preschool.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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Ohians hate Michigan, Indiana, and Pennsylvania because of their sports teams and make fun of West Virginia and Kentucky.
Ohio doesn't give Indiana a second thought. Even less for West Virginia. And the only people that even remember Kentucky borders Ohio are in Cincinnati.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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Yes, they feel quite superior. It's kind of funny really, but they believe it. I've spent a lot of time in both states, and would never chose Minnesota over Wisconsin....never.
Generally agree. I like Minnesota, but Wisconsin is one of my favorite states to visit. I really enjoy the people, culture, and attitude.
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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I would say every state that borders Illinois is not happy about it.
I don't think Iowans spend much time worrying about Illinois either way, unless maybe you live in the Quad Cities.

The only negative I ever hear is ribbing the University of Iowa for having such a high population of Chicago suburbanites, and that's less of an indictment of Illinois and more an indictment of suburban culture.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo
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There are 8 states bordering Missouri and I bet at one time or another we have feuded with every one of them. Kind of like living in an apartment with thin walls.
And being antisocial to begin with doesn't help much.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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I certainly donít know everything. And I love Chicago as well, while at the same time Iím very mindful of its material errors over the past three decades. But my mentality, and your mentality, isnít necessarily the mentality of an average joe from Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. And I do think that Illinois is a cautionary tale in many regards for the rest of the Midwest. I hope you donít need me to elaborate further.
I think "Illinois is a cautionary tale" doesn't have anything to do with liking or hating Illinois. Chicago has 55 million tourists each year, many from surrounding states who don't visit the city because they hate the place. If there is some animosity, it might be between Illinois and Indiana because of Indiana's constant efforts to raid Illinois because of high taxes, and the great disparity between ultra blue Illinois and beet red Indiana. Illinois spreads the wealth throughout the region with it's people visiting other neighboring states and having summer homes there such as Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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I think most states that border Texas hate it. Whether that's justified or not, IDK
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:05 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Me too. I don't hear any negative talk about Illinois (or Chicago) here in Milwaukee. I'm guessing any animus comes from our rural dwellers hating on the big city down in Illinois. But then again they're the same people that hate Milwaukee and Madison. From what I understand, people from Milwaukee visit Chicago pretty regularly and vice versa. I was just in Chicago last week.

If WI compares itself to anyone it's MN. And truthfully, MN is winning.

Growing up practically straddling the Ohio/Michigan line the rivalry was taught in preschool.
That's "interesting" as they say in Minnesota. I had a co-worker from Milwaukee back when I lived in Illinois. (I'm not a native Illinoisan.) She told me all sorts of IL-WI stories, and actually believed some of this stuff, e.g. terrible drivers. When she got an IL driver's license, she was surprised to find the rules of the road in IL are pretty much the same as Wisconsin's.
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