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Old 12-24-2018, 02:50 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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A lot of people in Maryland particularly in the DC suburbs and among Baltimore's yuppies truly dislike and mock West Virginia.

When I lived in West Virginia people viewed Maryland more favorably than any of WV's other neighbors. WV does hate Ohio State and Ohio drivers but everyone Maryland its mentioned its as an overpriced, socialist state or its about the crime and drugs in Baltimore.

Here in Louisiana the enlightened elites in New Orleans look down on all our neighbors particularly Mississippi, but in the rest of Louisiana we love all our neighbors. The states people here hate on are all outside the South like New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and California
What did/do the West Virginians think of Pennsylvania?
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:06 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Correction, people in West Virginia looks at Maryland the least favorably among all its neighbors.

Here in Louisiana people don't really talk about disliking any of our neighbors....except for certain folks in New Orleans who dislike all our neighbors especially Mississippi.
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Terramaria
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Correction, people in West Virginia looks at Maryland the least favorably among all its neighbors.
Eastern WV and Western MD are virtual twins, though it depends where in reference to WV and MD. Jefferson and Berkeley counties are very similar to Washington Counties, with valleyland interrupted by occasional mountain ridges, a big historic town, and smaller but charming ones. Morgan counties looks to western Washington County and far eastern Allegany Counties which is sort of "Appalachia lite", but not quite fully into it. Mineral and Hampshire Counties have a strong affinity for most of Allegany County, MD as well as southeastern Garrett, and that includes some suburbs of Cumberland, not to mention the airport is located in Mineral County, WV. Finally, Preston and parts of Tucker and Grant Counties have a nice bond with the balance of Garrett County, deep in Appalachia with high mountains and "true" winters. Morgantown is sort of its own little island, a bit too far for the Pittsburgh influence since its economy wasn't dependent on steel like the Northern Panhandle was, while a bit too far from western MD to really make it a regular place to hang out, with the exception perhaps of Wisp/Deep Creek Lake. That said, most of MD east of the Blue Ridge treats WV has this backwood, two decades behind the times place full of "trailer trash" intermixed with hoes and poor coal miners. It's a shame since its one of the most beautiful states, being heavily forested along with an array of hills, mountains, valleys, bridges, gorges, rapids, and more. More so than VA since it has a nice mix of environments like MD (and sometimes even a little jealous of some aspects like NoVA and Richmond's progress compared to Baltimore), DE due to it being a nice place to settle down along with the beach resorts and lack of sales tax, and PA due to its cool towns, cities, and history.
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Old 12-27-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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Eastern WV and Western MD are virtual twins, though it depends where in reference to WV and MD. Jefferson and Berkeley counties are very similar to Washington Counties, with valleyland interrupted by occasional mountain ridges, a big historic town, and smaller but charming ones. Morgan counties looks to western Washington County and far eastern Allegany Counties which is sort of "Appalachia lite", but not quite fully into it. Mineral and Hampshire Counties have a strong affinity for most of Allegany County, MD as well as southeastern Garrett, and that includes some suburbs of Cumberland, not to mention the airport is located in Mineral County, WV. Finally, Preston and parts of Tucker and Grant Counties have a nice bond with the balance of Garrett County, deep in Appalachia with high mountains and "true" winters. Morgantown is sort of its own little island, a bit too far for the Pittsburgh influence since its economy wasn't dependent on steel like the Northern Panhandle was, while a bit too far from western MD to really make it a regular place to hang out, with the exception perhaps of Wisp/Deep Creek Lake. That said, most of MD east of the Blue Ridge treats WV has this backwood, two decades behind the times place full of "trailer trash" intermixed with hoes and poor coal miners. It's a shame since its one of the most beautiful states, being heavily forested along with an array of hills, mountains, valleys, bridges, gorges, rapids, and more. More so than VA since it has a nice mix of environments like MD (and sometimes even a little jealous of some aspects like NoVA and Richmond's progress compared to Baltimore), DE due to it being a nice place to settle down along with the beach resorts and lack of sales tax, and PA due to its cool towns, cities, and history.

I think most hate between state's is based on College Sports. Even though they're not big in New England. I know Syracuse fans and UConn Fans despise each other and it almost always based on a state line.
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:24 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Eastern WV and Western MD are virtual twins, though it depends where in reference to WV and MD. Jefferson and Berkeley counties are very similar to Washington Counties, with valleyland interrupted by occasional mountain ridges, a big historic town, and smaller but charming ones. Morgan counties looks to western Washington County and far eastern Allegany Counties which is sort of "Appalachia lite", but not quite fully into it. Mineral and Hampshire Counties have a strong affinity for most of Allegany County, MD as well as southeastern Garrett, and that includes some suburbs of Cumberland, not to mention the airport is located in Mineral County, WV. Finally, Preston and parts of Tucker and Grant Counties have a nice bond with the balance of Garrett County, deep in Appalachia with high mountains and "true" winters. Morgantown is sort of its own little island, a bit too far for the Pittsburgh influence since its economy wasn't dependent on steel like the Northern Panhandle was, while a bit too far from western MD to really make it a regular place to hang out, with the exception perhaps of Wisp/Deep Creek Lake. That said, most of MD east of the Blue Ridge treats WV has this backwood, two decades behind the times place full of "trailer trash" intermixed with hoes and poor coal miners. It's a shame since its one of the most beautiful states, being heavily forested along with an array of hills, mountains, valleys, bridges, gorges, rapids, and more. More so than VA since it has a nice mix of environments like MD (and sometimes even a little jealous of some aspects like NoVA and Richmond's progress compared to Baltimore), DE due to it being a nice place to settle down along with the beach resorts and lack of sales tax, and PA due to its cool towns, cities, and history.
Many people in eastern Baltimore County do have family roots in West Virginia as they migrated to Baltimore to work in the steel mills and factories in the middle of the 20th century. Most of that industry is destroyed now in Maryland.

Most people in the DC suburbs look down on Western MD and see it as an extension of WV (the same people also look down on the Eastern Shore). I lived in Kanawha County and most people there viewed Maryland very negatively. While Western MD is similar to parts of WV, most of Maryland's population is urban and the state as a whole is more different from WV than any of its neighbors.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Michigan vs. Ohio. We even had a war once. Congress settled the war, Michigan got Statehood and the UP. Ohio got Toledo and thought that they had won the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War

If you have Michigan plates and must drive in Ohio, throw some mud on your plates and make them unrecognizable.

Ohio is actually a better run state and has better roads, libraries, police, cheapest car insurance rates (Michigan is most expensive), . .. . This pisses us off. Of course Ohio also has the most human trafficking of any state last time i saw statistics, but that does not make us feel any better about them.

Michigan is covered in lakes and rivers. Ohio has no natural inland lakes at all. Ha - We are the great lakes state, Ohio should be the fake lakes state.

In Ohio people drive too slow. It makes us crazy

Ohio stole Jeep. Auto manufacturing is supposed to be in Michigan!

Ohio generates the most astronauts of any State. In Michigan, we say that is because everyone who lives in Ohio wants to get as far away from it as possible.

Ohio is more politically important. That pisses us off too.

Then you have that godawful university (#OhowIhateohiostate)

We have lots of funny anti-Ohio bumper stickers "Q:What is a buckeye? A: some kind of nut." I do not think they do that much. Buckeyes do not have sense of humor.
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Old 01-06-2019, 10:36 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Correction, people in West Virginia looks at Maryland the least favorably among all its neighbors.

Here in Louisiana people don't really talk about disliking any of our neighbors....except for certain folks in New Orleans who dislike all our neighbors especially Mississippi.
intresting, WV is a true outlier geographically. It's too far east to be midwestern, too far north to be southern and too far south to be northeastern. WV embodies Applicaha culture as the transition between east coast and midwest.
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Old 01-07-2019, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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In Oklahoma we always say that the only good Texan is a Red Texan.

I'd say that of all the smaller states that border Texas that they all don't like Texas but Oklahoma is probably the only one to which Texas returns the favor.

Other than that Texas tends to send it's enmity toward the California and New York.

I think Nebraska and Colorado have some aspects of a rivalry based on all the hard core Nebraska fans who have moved to Colorado.
Other than football stuff, I've never noticed any dislike toward the state of Oklahoma in Texas. But maybe I am just not hanging out with the right folks to hear it.

I live in East Texas and many people feel very affectionate toward Louisiana. Most folks never mention Arkansas so I don't know how they feel about Arkansas - if they ever even think about it.

Mixed reviews on New Mexico. Lots of folks from East Texas work in New Mexico (oil and gas) so there's a lot of familiarity with it even though it's a full day's drive away.

Generally speaking, I don't hear Texans even talking about other states very often, other than Louisiana (I guess because I live sort of near that border and lots of people go to New Orleans occasionally - and also, well, there are lots of Saints fans, myself included, in this area).
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Other than football stuff, I've never noticed any dislike toward the state of Oklahoma in Texas. But maybe I am just not hanging out with the right folks to hear it.

I live in East Texas and many people feel very affectionate toward Louisiana. Most folks never mention Arkansas so I don't know how they feel about Arkansas - if they ever even think about it.

Mixed reviews on New Mexico. Lots of folks from East Texas work in New Mexico (oil and gas) so there's a lot of familiarity with it even though it's a full day's drive away.

Generally speaking, I don't hear Texans even talking about other states very often, other than Louisiana (I guess because I live sort of near that border and lots of people go to New Orleans occasionally - and also, well, there are lots of Saints fans, myself included, in this area).
Yes, I'm sure a lot of the derogatory conversation is driven by the football stuff or is spun off by the football stuff. However, after living in Texas and spending time in Texas when you say you are from Oklahoma you will sometimes get the good natured pot shot (i.e "got here as soon as you could, eh") or sometimes an innocent, but insulting quip about Oklahoma being backward compared to Texas. But we sometimes get those from people in Kansas and Arkansas as well.

But make no mistake, during the weekend when Oklahoma and Texas play in Dallas the hate can get and does get pretty vicious at times.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Michigan vs. Ohio. We even had a war once. Congress settled the war, Michigan got Statehood and the UP. Ohio got Toledo and thought that they had won the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War

If you have Michigan plates and must drive in Ohio, throw some mud on your plates and make them unrecognizable.

Ohio is actually a better run state and has better roads, libraries, police, cheapest car insurance rates (Michigan is most expensive), . .. . This pisses us off. Of course Ohio also has the most human trafficking of any state last time i saw statistics, but that does not make us feel any better about them.

Michigan is covered in lakes and rivers. Ohio has no natural inland lakes at all. Ha - We are the great lakes state, Ohio should be the fake lakes state.

In Ohio people drive too slow. It makes us crazy

Ohio stole Jeep. Auto manufacturing is supposed to be in Michigan!

Ohio generates the most astronauts of any State. In Michigan, we say that is because everyone who lives in Ohio wants to get as far away from it as possible.

Ohio is more politically important. That pisses us off too.

Then you have that godawful university (#OhowIhateohiostate)

We have lots of funny anti-Ohio bumper stickers "Q:What is a buckeye? A: some kind of nut." I do not think they do that much. Buckeyes do not have sense of humor.
As someone who has lived within 20 miles of the Ohio/Michigan border my entire life, I wouldn't call what Ohio and Michigan have dislike for each other so much as "envious of some things but you can keep those other things" that goes both ways. For example:

Ohio does not envy Michigan's terrible roads or their exorbitant auto insurance rates but they do envy the miles of coastline and picturesque areas areas like Mackinac Island and Traverse City, although they have some cuties of their own along Lake Erie, namely Put-in-Bay and Marblehead/Lakeside.

Michigan doesn't envy Ohio's relative lack of scenery but they do envy its healthier, more functional cities. Not that Detroit hasn't made great strides, but Ohio has the Three Cs. Just ask them, they will tell you, lol.

Ohio doesn't envy Michigan's football team or record for the past several years because, after all, they have Ohio State, but I have to believe that to some extent they do envy the Big House, Michigan's iconic football history from years ago, and the University of Michigan's academic reputation, just as I believe that people in Michigan secretly envy Ohio State's uncanny ability to find the best football coaches and field the best teams year after year.

I know that your "Ohio stole Jeep" comment was tongue in cheek because I know from all of your other posts that you are an extremely intelligent, well educated, and historically aware person, but the reality, for others here who may not know, is that the Jeep brand is the creation of the former Willys-Overland automobile company of Toledo, Ohio and is a complete and total Ohio brand and creation. People in Toledo LOVE their Jeep, they are very, very, VERY proud of their Jeep...just ask them.

We have lived in Michigan for the past 21+ years and it is great, but there are times when I would just love to move back to Ohio, especially considering that I could do so and not even change doctors or otherwise, as we live so close to the border. But then, when I see all those Ohio license plates up and down US-23 and see that they arrogantly think that because they are in Michigan they can drive 85+ MPH it makes me think again. I do think that Ohio as a whole has a bit of a superiority complex towards Michigan, even with all of the great things that Michigan has to offer. Not hate, though, too many families living split between the two states for there to be true hate, not to mention that Midwesterners as a whole tend to be pretty laid back and easy to get along with.

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