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Old 12-06-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Bobloblawslawblog,

What's the relationship like between Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho? I've spent a couple weeks in Spokane, Pullman, Moscow, and Coeur d'Alene. A lot of the people I met in Coeur d'Alene seemed to hate Washington with a passion. My sense was that it's the classic red state/blue state rivalry. I felt the people in Spokane thought that the Idahoans were even trashier than themselves. In Pullman (WA) most of the people I talked to wished they lived in nearly by Moscow (ID) because there're better restaurants, better bars, and an organic food co-op. The people I met in Moscow prefer Pullman because they think it's prettier.

Is this a pretty correct assessment?
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Bobloblawslawblog,

What's the relationship like between Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho? I've spent a couple weeks in Spokane, Pullman, Moscow, and Coeur d'Alene. A lot of the people I met in Coeur d'Alene seemed to hate Washington with a passion. My sense was that it's the classic red state/blue state rivalry. I felt the people in Spokane thought that the Idahoans were even trashier than themselves. In Pullman (WA) most of the people I talked to wished they lived in nearly by Moscow (ID) because there're better restaurants, better bars, and an organic food co-op. The people I met in Moscow prefer Pullman because they think it's prettier.

Is this a pretty correct assessment?
It's um... complicated.

Most of the people around here that I come into contact with just look at Idaho as a conveniently nearby area to do their shopping and buy certain items much cheaper than they are in WA, but not good for much else. Skiing/snowboarding maybe, but we have that here too.

Obviously Eastern WA is a much more conservative area than the Puget Sound or I-5 corridor in the Western half of the state, but it's not even close to being as far-right conservative as Northern ID is. Believe it or not, even many of the conservatives here view Idaho as being far too conservative. There are a couple of places in Idaho that "get a pass" though, like Couer D'Alene and Sandpoint, but overall there is quite a bit of animosity between here and there. It also doesn't help that many Idahoans drive like complete ***holes. They really stand out on the roads over here.

Having moved to Eastern WA from Seattle, my take on it is this: Seattle looks at Spokane and Eastern WA as a bunch of conservative hillbillies, but Spokane looks at Northern Idaho the same way Seattle looks at this area. It's just varying degrees of conservatism and "backwardness". The further East you go, the further to the right you go. Eastern WA is a significantly more moderately conservative area, versus Northern Idaho's extreme conservatism.

As for the Moscow/Pullman thing, I suppose the same could be said of the relationship between Spokane and Couer D'Alene, only reversed. CDA has the nicer, cleaner, more modern downtown with the much more scenic and pretty waterfront, while Spokane has higher wages and a lower COL, with better downtown nightlife and a more gritty, urban vibe than CDA.

All in all, yes. A pretty good assessment.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:25 AM
 
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Mass vs. NY is definitely a big rivalry
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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I'd imagine a heated rivalry between Maryland and Virginia.
MD and VA could be called rivals, but it's more of a respectful rivalry. In my experience of having lived in both states, neither really dislikes the other.

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Old 12-07-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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MD and VA could be called rivals, but it's more of a respectful rivalry. In my experience of having lived in both states, neither really dislikes the other.
In many ways, I feel like it could be the same between North and South Carolina. You never hear someone in NC say, "Man, I HATE South Carolina" or something along those lines. Most people don't really care. For sports, South Carolina is in the SEC, so they don't play North Carolina teams often since NC is all ACC. In this case, I don't believe we think of SC too often in NC with the exception of Clemson being in the ACC. I did have one high school history teacher who hated South Carolina, always looked down on John C. Calhoun and Strom Thurmond. On the first day of class, she asked, "Anyone here from South Carolina? Because I'm going to pick on that state throughout the semester." Being from the Raleigh/Durham area, we were much closer to Virginia. When people visited South Carolina, it was usually to the beaches. Maybe it's a different story down in Charlotte.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Mass vs. NY is definitely a big rivalry
Maybe there's a strong rivalry between NYC and Boston, but having lived in Upstate New York, I felt that the people there were unaware of Massachusetts' very existence.
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Old 12-07-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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Bobloblawslawblog,

The people I met in Moscow prefer Pullman because they think it's prettier.
That's strange. I'm not sure what they mean by "prettier" but Moscow has a nicer college campus, a nicer downtown, nicer residential areas IMO, and actual mountains just northeast of town.

Pullman just has wheat fields around it. Pioneer Hill, College Hill and Military Hill are not impressive. The southwest hill (Sunnyside?) is nice. Maybe that is what they are talking about.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:58 PM
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Maybe there's a strong rivalry between NYC and Boston, but having lived in Upstate New York, I felt that the people there were unaware of Massachusetts' very existence.
I agree with this. NYC and Boston have a rivalry, but people in Western Mass and Upstate NY don't really care.

Except if we're talking football (Giants v Pats), then there might be some tension.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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That's strange. I'm not sure what they mean by "prettier" but Moscow has a nicer college campus, a nicer downtown, nicer residential areas IMO, and actual mountains just northeast of town.

Pullman just has wheat fields around it. Pioneer Hill, College Hill and Military Hill are not impressive. The southwest hill (Sunnyside?) is nice. Maybe that is what they are talking about.
Pullman is hillier and has a creek running through it.

I like WSU's campus better, but both are nice.

Both cities are basically surrounded by wheat fields.
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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In many ways, I feel like it could be the same between North and South Carolina. You never hear someone in NC say, "Man, I HATE South Carolina" or something along those lines. Most people don't really care. For sports, South Carolina is in the SEC, so they don't play North Carolina teams often since NC is all ACC. In this case, I don't believe we think of SC too often in NC with the exception of Clemson being in the ACC. I did have one high school history teacher who hated South Carolina, always looked down on John C. Calhoun and Strom Thurmond. On the first day of class, she asked, "Anyone here from South Carolina? Because I'm going to pick on that state throughout the semester." Being from the Raleigh/Durham area, we were much closer to Virginia. When people visited South Carolina, it was usually to the beaches. Maybe it's a different story down in Charlotte.
The funny thing is that the few NC'ers I knew dissing SC a couple years ago were from towns like Shelby and Kannapolis. I was like "You CAN'T be serious."
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