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Old 12-04-2014, 08:23 PM
 
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Will we ever see another large wave of Europeans moving to this country, the way they did 100 years ago? Will we ever see massive amounts of Italians, Irish, Greeks or Eastern Europeans coming here for economic reasons?
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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Russians and other former eastern bloc people have been moving in since the early 1990s. There are also quite a few British "refugees" moving to the states in recent years. I think there will always be exchange of citizens between the UK and USA as long as they both speak English.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Of course not. Europe is just as developed (if not more developed) than the US is. What kind of economic benefits could they possibly attain from moving to the States?

As far as Eastern Europeans go, they'll just continue to emigrate to Western and Northern Europe. A lot of Eastern European countries are already EU members, so they can freely relocate wherever the economics are more favorable.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Denver
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They have no need now. If anything, Americans will migrate elsewhere.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Within the next 50 years? Unlikely, unless the climate really goes to pot. For example, some studies suggest with additional global warming, melting ice from Greenland may shut down the Gulf Stream. Since Europe is actually on a similar latitude to Canada (with the Mediterranean more like the Northern U.S.) this would render Europe unable to feed itself, and a pretty miserable place to live overall.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Outside of the United States
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No. European immigration wave has happened. It is history. It is over.

Same reasons as for South America. Established economical and social position, reversed from what has been in Europe in Nineteen Century. Literally no one interested. I mean it. Most people here dislike the United States. I am deadly serious. In Europe the most widespread attitude for the United States is this. Not that mighty, not that wealthy, not that influential and not that interesting. For most Europeans, today luxury-loving and socially secured (which is a huge issue in European mentality) people, emigration is too hard and not that beneficial. In Europe people perceive the United States as diminishing empire, and think European Union will rule the world, or remain important. And most people here do not believe that something like American dream is achieveable nowadays. There are, in general, very ignorant and arrogant towards the United States and the rest of the word. And I mean very ignorant and arrogant. Furthermore, poeple here love to live in illusion, which they are creating to themselves, that even if the world is run from New York City, Los Angeles, Huston, Shanghai and Tokyo, they will think that Paris, Berlin, Madrid and Milan is enough to stop care. Really, today people in Europe are deeply Europe-centered, unable to see antyhing beyond. That will destroy them, if they will not alter their attitude, as it has once destroyed Chinesee. They say that the United States is evil, inefficient and shall fall. They shall fall sooner, though.

Most young adults I know are not interested in immigration to the United States, even if they will have opportunity to easily conduct it. And I know also many people that has been to the United States, receive education there, or even gown up there. Even know induviduals that has been in the United States on Fulbright Scholarship. And you not what? None of them is interested in such a transition.

That is a voice from the Old Continent. Deal with it.
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:08 PM
 
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No. European immigration wave has happened. It is history. It is over.

Same reasons as for South America. Established economical and social position, reversed from what has been in Europe in Nineteen Century. Literally no one interested. I mean it. Most people here dislike the United States. I am deadly serious. In Europe the most widespread attitude for the United States is this. Not that mighty, not that wealthy, not that influential and not that interesting. For most Europeans, today luxury-loving and socially secured (which is a huge issue in European mentality) people, emigration is too hard and not that beneficial. In Europe people perceive the United States as diminishing empire, and think European Union will rule the world, or remain important. And most people here do not believe that something like American dream is achieveable nowadays. There are, in general, very ignorant and arrogant towards the United States and the rest of the word. And I mean very ignorant and arrogant. Furthermore, poeple here love to live in illusion, which they are creating to themselves, that even if the world is run from New York City, Los Angeles, Huston, Shanghai and Tokyo, they will think that Paris, Berlin, Madrid and Milan is enough to stop care. Really, today people in Europe are deeply Europe-centered, unable to see antyhing beyond. That will destroy them, if they will not alter their attitude, as it has once destroyed Chinesee. They say that the United States is evil, inefficient and shall fall. They shall fall sooner, though.

Most young adults I know are not interested in immigration to the United States, even if they will have opportunity to easily conduct it. And I know also many people that has been to the United States, receive education there, or even gown up there. Even know induviduals that has been in the United States on Fulbright Scholarship. And you not what? None of them is interested in such a transition.

That is a voice from the Old Continent. Deal with it.
Simmer down there. It was an innocent question, I didn't get any negative vibes that deserve the hostility I sense in your response. No need to bash the US. Your insecurity is showing.
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Isn't Europe facing it's own share of immigration problems? Such as mass migration and a lot of social and racial strife as a result from that?
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:56 PM
 
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Really, today people in Europe are deeply Europe-centered, unable to see antyhing beyond.
In other words, they've become exactly what they criticize Americans for.
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Old 12-05-2014, 12:14 AM
 
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[quote=JerseyGirl415;37523450]Simmer down there. It was an innocent question, I didn't get any negative vibes that deserve the hostility I sense in your response.

And this was an innocent anwser, I am sorry if you are offended. I did not have any hostility towards the United States. I was only showing some view of the United States that most European share and this view is biased and far from reality. And for the last words of my message. Their were just rhetorical figure to some emphasis, without them my words were somewhat too raw.

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No need to bash the US.
You mean you have understood me as against the United States? If so, you misuderstood me at all. I was harsh for Europeans, not Americans in my statements. I was also reporting what people around me say about it and I do not share their view at all. Because I think of emigration to the United States one day, as it is far more better state than any in Europe. And Europe in its blindness is going to hurt herself.

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Your insecurity is showing.
Pardon me, what did you mean? I am asking seriously. I do not understand to what you are reffering to when writing insecurity.

I beg for apologize, if my post was improper. When I live, it seems we are more reserved, so we have different view what is hostility in opinion.

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In other words, they've become exactly what they criticize Americans for.
Yes, quite, well pointed out. They have become exactly what they criticize.

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Isn't Europe facing it's own share of immigration problems? Such as mass migration and a lot of social and racial strife as a result from that?
Only partialy and locally. I mean most of these immigrants are not illegal but they are not assimilating and remain unemployed, they live from benefits. As for the racial strife, I do not live in parts of Europe when the immigration is occuring, but I know that in the United Kingdom Britons have a huge problem with religious and racial hatred. It is not a serious issue now, but in a decade or two, it will be disastrous in outcome for Germany, France and Italy.

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