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Old 12-16-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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If you're so concerned about "predatory large-scale retailers", why don't you jump on Sears and its parent K-Mart; Penney's; Target; Big Lots; Walgreen's; CVS; et al?
Probably because this thread is about Wal-Mart.

I actually personally am against many large scale retailers moving into dense areas like mine that have many downtowns and local businesses. Perhaps it's because NJ is so dense but we are very big on downtowns in North Jersey, there is a large presence of small privately owned businesses, from restaurants to stores, in town centers. Of course we have chains, and more and more force their way in over time and are usually very successful, but they only belong in certain areas IMO. I am not resistant to chains, I am resistant to too many of them in one particular area and they should not be placed within downtowns, IMO. I love our local Target, located in a strip mall in a smaller town with no true downtown, but would I want one in my town center? Absolutely not. For decades, my town resisted large chains, made it nearly impossible for them to open here, and promoted small business. This has slowly been changing and I don't know how I feel about it. I don't know, I guess I just come from a town with close ties to and a love for small businesses.

I acknowledge it must be different for other areas of the country, like less populated/dense areas with small or no downtowns, like maybe rural areas or states that are largely rural and just not like here. That's fine; it's different everywhere but that's how I feel for me and my area.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:01 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Probably because this thread is about Wal-Mart.

I actually personally am against many large scale retailers moving into dense areas like mine that have many downtowns and local businesses. Perhaps it's because NJ is so dense but we are very big on downtowns in North Jersey, there is a large presence of small privately owned businesses, from restaurants to stores, in town centers. Of course we have chains, and more and more force their way in over time and are usually very successful, but they only belong in certain areas IMO. I am not resistant to chains, I am resistant to too many of them in one particular area and they should not be placed within downtowns, IMO. I love our local Target, located in a strip mall in a smaller town with no true downtown, but would I want one in my town center? Absolutely not. For decades, my town resisted large chains, made it nearly impossible for them to open here, and promoted small business. This has slowly been changing and I don't know how I feel about it. I don't know, I guess I just come from a town with close ties to and a love for small businesses.

I acknowledge it must be different for other areas of the country, like less populated/dense areas with small or no downtowns, like maybe rural areas or states that are largely rural and just not like here. That's fine; it's different everywhere but that's how I feel for me and my area.
Point taken, that this thread is about Walmart. Then why mention the local Target you're in love with? Most Walmarts are not in town centers; the one in Denver is not downtown. I do think it appropriate to compare Walmart to Sears, which endured the same criticism 100 years ago. It also seems to me that Walmart is d*mned if they do and d*mned if they don't-build outside of town, they're destroying downtown; build in the city, they're destroying downtown.

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Old 12-16-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Point taken, that this thread is about Walmart. Then why mention the local Target you're in love with? Most Walmarts are not in town centers; the one in Denver is not downtown. I do think it appropriate to compare Walmart to Sears, which endured the same criticism 100 years ago. It also seems to me that Walmart is d*mned if they do and d*mned if they don't-build outside of town, they're destroying downtown; build in the city, they're destroying downtown.
Okay, but Sears sucks too. I don't want them in my city either.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Why does everyone hate on Wal Mart. I love Wal Mart its dirt cheap and has everything I need in one place. I don't buy clothes at Wal Mart thou, not that poor yet.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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Walmart does not control any city in this country. It would be silly to think that.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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Point taken, that this thread is about Walmart. Then why mention the local Target you're in love with? Most Walmarts are not in town centers; the one in Denver is not downtown. I do think it appropriate to compare Walmart to Sears, which endured the same criticism 100 years ago. It also seems to me that Walmart is d*mned if they do and d*mned if they don't-build outside of town, they're destroying downtown; build in the city, they're destroying downtown.
I also mentioned Walgreens in my town. It was both to prove a point about the presence of chains in towns.

I'm not talking about Denver and other cities, I'm talking about smaller towns. My town is about 22,000. If they were to put a Wal-Mart here, well first it would be very noticeable and there is no true "good" spot for it at all, but I would not want it in our downtown. I would want it elsewhere in the town. I don't like large retail chains being in the center of town, the downtown. In quaint downtowns like mine, dominated by small businesses, it looks tacky IMO.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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I also mentioned Walgreens in my town. It was both to prove a point about the presence of chains in towns.

I'm not talking about Denver and other cities, I'm talking about smaller towns. My town is about 22,000. If they were to put a Wal-Mart here, well first it would be very noticeable and there is no true "good" spot for it at all, but I would not want it in our downtown. I would want it elsewhere in the town. I don't like large retail chains being in the center of town, the downtown. In quaint downtowns like mine, dominated by small businesses, it looks tacky IMO.
Call me a Hillbilly Joe I love Wal Mart. I guess I am just an un educated schumk hillbilly from Kentucky that lives in a double wide trailer, according to the Hollywood movies on Southern Culture.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Call me a Hillbilly Joe I love Wal Mart. I guess I am just an un educated schumk hillbilly from Kentucky that lives in a double wide trailer, according to the Hollywood movies on Southern Culture.
I don't care if you love Wal-Mart, you're allowed to. Where did I insinuate that people cannot love Wal-Mart? I'm talking about the presence of large retailers in small town downtowns dominated by small businesses. Doesn't seem like we're on the same page here.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Walmart does not control any city in this country. It would be silly to think that.
Except this city:

City of Bentonville
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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They have a Wal Mart in the Hollywood Section of LA where the bums fight and beg people for dough. Exciting times in Hollywood. It was kinda sad actually especially seeing so many homeless kids in that section of LA at night, depressing as hell.
There are five Walmarts in LA city limits, but none in Hollywood. Maybe you thought the Sun Valley location was Hollywood? There is a Target in West Hollywood, maybe you are mixing the stores up?

The five locations are in Crenshaw, Porter Ranch, Canoga Park and Sun Valley. The fifth is in Chinatown but is just a "neighborhood market" aka grocery store. It is an urban format store, at the bottom of a multistory mixed use building.

Keep in mind the full size stores that are in city limits are at the very edge of LAs enormous boundaries - so the inner 70 square miles are Walmart-free other than the grocery format. The closest full size store is the Crenshaw location and that is about 7 miles from the core.
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