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Old 12-16-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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I want to ask if you know any major city that leans toward Republican Party in federal elections or party enrollment?

All areas that have Republican or conservative majority are suburban or rural, not a single one urban.

For example New York City, as the biggest city in the nation, just look at it:

New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ever does urban means strongly leaning toward Democratic Party and staunch liberal?

If you wipe out proper cities from the U.S. it would be one party state. The same thing when wiping off suburban and rural areas.

Much to be said about it and it is very interesting.

It is unavoidable to cities to be far more liberal than other parts of a nation?

Accroding to this:
United States House of Representatives elections, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is.

It is even true when it comes to popular image of parts of certain states.

Upstate New York considered far more conservative than New York City.
Northern Virginia considered far more liberal, federal supportive and view as Democratic stronghold in this state.
Northern Carolina, more Democrat because of Research Triangle booming cities.
Georgia staunch conservative, except Atlanta proper and some of counties near it.
Ihio, Columbus and Cleveland Democratic Strongholds, while Cincinatti suburban neighbourhoods home area of John Boehner.
Memphis and Nashville proper in Tennessee, stains on conservative clothed state.
Denver in Colorado.
Kansas City and St. Louis in Missouri.
Indianapolis in Indiana, stands proud but alone, apart from than one county in Chicago area, which is just the opposite of what most voters in Illinois wishes.
California with liberal Los Angeles and conservative Orange County.
Texas, just look at recent governorship chellange result by county, but 2010 can be even more informative:

Texas gubernatorial election, 2010 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is it the universal law? Will we never see even one, firmly conservative big city? Apart from Salt Lake City, Utah which is very specific, and not that much conservative, and Colorado Spring, Colorado, which is more big town, than small city.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:31 PM
 
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Yes, white flight changed political map, I agree.

Of what cities are you talking about?
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Yes, white flight changed political map, I agree.

Of what cities are you talking about?
About the only cities I think that would fit that description would be western cities such as Salt Lake City or Phoenix or Colorado Springs. And plains cities like OKC, Tulsa, Wichita, Lincoln.

I bet not a single urban county went for Romney in 2012 east of the plains.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Liberal does not mean democrat. Goodness..

No it's not universal.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Liberal does not mean democrat. Goodness..

No it's not universal.
I actually agree with you man. Good post
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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Liberal does not mean democrat. Goodness..

No it's not universal.
Exactly.

Many socially conservative people vote Democrat. They're not liberals. Conversely, many liberals don't vote Democrat or Republican, but do vote third party (Green party, Justice party for example). Liberals are obviously going to vote Dem before they vote GOP in most cases, but being liberal doesn't mean you just blindly vote by party. There are way too many conservative Dem politicians to just blindly vote Democrat, if you're truly liberal.

That said, I definitely do not think all American cities have become overwhelmingly liberal. Many U.S. cities are moderate at best, even in their core areas. Obviously the big coastal cities and certain smaller college towns are going to be pretty solid liberal in their cores, but there are enough larger cities that tilt right to show that it is not across the board.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Liberal does not mean democrat. Goodness..
Show were I stated this then.

Or maybe your point is that liberals are Republican leaning?

I do understand that Democrat does not mean liberal as far as Republican does not mean conservative. But both Democracts and Republicans have their major base. And this is liberals and conservatives accordingly. There is a direct and huge connection beetwen liberals and Demoracts, that not exist between Repulicans and liberals. Democratic Party openly is based on ideology of American Liberalism, and, for example, socially conservative voters that support more regulation in economy, are marginal base for the party.

Do not you see states in those most people identify themself as liberals are strongly Democratic in elections? Do not you see that areas where liberalism is thriwing are overwhemingly Democrat, like New England? Will you tell me that most New Englanders are socially conservative?

Modern liberalism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyone knows that Democratic does not mean liberal and Republicans get their base both from social conservatives and libertarians.

Like it or not, Democrats champion liberalism and Republicans champion conservatism. Look at any poll, any data, either Gallup or what you like.

Goodness...
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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but there are
So name those cities. Unless they cannot be named, they cannot exist.

Also you may like to like at this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...allup_8-10.svg

And compare it to Democratic holds in presidential elections.

http://www.bloombergview.com/article...always-liberal

Title indicates that now Democratic Party is liberal.

Sorry for double post.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Who Cares, USA
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So name those cities. Unless they cannot be named, they cannot exist.
Oklahoma City, Phoenix, Jacksonville, Fort Worth, and Salt Lake City for starters.

If you don't believe me then feel free to do your own research.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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And no, the Democratic party is not liberal. Certain factions of the party are, but there are plenty of conservative Dems. Ever heard of Joe Lieberman?
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