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Old 01-01-2015, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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The Lakewood Hasidic community has absolutely nothing to do with the KJ Hasidic community. Lakewood is Bobov, KJ is Satmar. They are totally different sects, and Lakewood Hasids work, so obviously there will be higher household income in Lakewood.

And Lakewood isn't 100% Hasidic Jewish, it's just around 50-60% Hasidic Jewish. KJ is 100% Hasid.
Fine. You want to be that specific, then we'll just call it Monroe instead of Kiryas Joel which is in Monroe. It still doesn't change the numbers as a percentage of their town. The Hasidic Jewish sections of Lakewood are inline with Lakewood. The Hasidic Jewish sections of Monroe are not. Lakewood Hasidics have a work-study mix and are part of the community even though they live apart from the community. Monroe Hasidics are parasites to the community. Take a look at Monsey, NY and their Hasidic population is not better.

http://www.city-data.com/poverty/pov...-New-York.html

We can take it a step further; Clinton tried to bring down "welfare dependency" which he did by the end of his presidency, but when it shifted to states under Bush "welfare dependency" increased and the Hasidics took full advantage of it in anyway they could in NY. NJs poorest county/town/city has 10x higher income than KJ. That's a big difference from one being one state over and KJ being only a few miles past the state border.

As I said earlier in this thread, there is real poverty in numerous areas around the US and there is fake poverty. The Hasidics of NY are fake poverty and it ripples around the planet that makes Jews be seen in a negative light. Worldwide they are less than 10% of the Jewish population, but because of the way they are (including parts of Europe and Israel) they are seen as representative of Judaism. which they are not.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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yeah but apparently not just their community. They are sucking social services from outside the community too, milking the welfare system while they sit around and do what, study the Torah all day?
Yet no other state in the US lets them get away with this.
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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I would say between inner bay Baltimore and the South Side of Chicago. Camden did not even compare to those two places. Dilapidated, kids washing cars as you stop them at red lights, no supermarkets, buildings look broken and dark. Nothing to do. Horrible transportation. I can't believe City Data had a debate between DC and Baltimore. There was no debate for me. Baltimore is a God Forsaken place.
I find it very had to believe that Baltimore is worse than Camden when it comes to poverty. Per Capita income in Baltimore is very nearly double that of Camden. Per capita income in Baltimore is also 10% higher than Philadelphia's. I'm not sure how you define inner "inner bay" part of Baltimore but the areas near the harbor have incomes that are not quite double the national average. Perhaps you are talking about Dundalk, which in not in Baltimore and has slightly lower incomes. But if you cherry pick the poorest parts of the Baltimore ghettos you will find incomes as low as those in Camden. Those ghettos cover maybe 20% of the city. Baltimore is still a relatively poor city; it's per capita income is nearly 14% below the national average.
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