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Old 01-25-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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No. It's not obvious lol. Please explain.
I'm guessing you don't know much about Gary. It's a poster child for urban decline and decay along with places like Youngstown, Flint, Camden, etc. Being that you live in a neighboring state, I would have thought you'd know about Gary.

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Old 01-25-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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No. It's not obvious lol. Please explain.
violence, high murder/crime rate, pollution, deinustrailization, poverty.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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violence, high murder/crime rate, pollution, deinustrailization, poverty.
I know plenty about Gary. But is it the only city like this in the state? While Gary may be a posterchild of urban poverty, Southern Indiana is a posterchild of rural/suburban white poverty. Me being in the neighboring state, I know plenty about the dark underside of Southern Indiana just across the river. Until moving to Louisville, I had absolutely no idea Southern Indiana is the way it is, so I'm not sure many people outside the area would understand it either.

Personally, I would think Southern Indiana fits in less. Indiana is Midwest and Rustbelt. Gary is Midwest and Rustbelt. Culturally, politically, economically, everything. Southern Indiana, however, would fit in just perfectly in any state in the Deep South. White poverty, Confederate flags galore, good-ole boy mentality, rural/small town activities are popular like they are in the South. I find Southern Indiana to be just as culturally "southern" as the typically blue collar/southern parts of the Louisville MSA. It's also more "southern" than many parts Louisville, many parts of Lexington, and most of Northern Kentucky.

That's just my $0.02. I'm no expert on Indiana, but to me, Gary and Indiana are both Midwest and Rustbelt. Southern Indiana is NOT Midwest nor Rustbelt. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Seriously. It's my opinion, but I'm open to discussing it because I'm curious about everyone's opinions on Southern Indiana.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Florida and New England
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It is definitely Pueblo.

This whole thread screams PUEBLO.

Of all the red headed step child cities in any state Pueblo represents it best.

No other state can even compete.
Rutland, Vermont and Topeka, Kansas come pretty close.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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Not being from Ohio, I'll defer to the native-born.

But back in the day, my friends from Ohio always used Zanesville as the punchline.
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Old 01-26-2017, 09:01 PM
 
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Why such bad things for Waco? I haven't heard anything negative about Waco except for that wacko in Davidian Branch that cult. I would say maybe Beaumont,TX or El Paso maybe.
Waco is a pretty nice city if you go west of I-35. Beautiful neighborhoods, hills, and nice lake. Most people have never been off of I-35, which is mostly motels and fast food places.

The Branch Dividian thing didn't even happen in Waco. It was outside of Waco in some farmland. But the media tagged Waco.

Even Beaumont has a lot of nice areas, but overall is not an attractive city. El Paso is really interesting, being situated in a mountain valley. If you drive up the slopes, you'll be stunned by the scenery and neighborhoods. Travelers usually see the poorer parts near I-10, and many think that Juarez, Mexico, which is clearly visible from I-10, is part of El Paso. Overall, there's a lot of poverty in El Paso, and I think that's why it is often a punching bag, whether that's really fair or not.
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Old 01-27-2017, 01:27 AM
 
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For Illiniois, it can be separated into regions of who is the offical "punching bag" depending on what part of the state you're in. For example punching for each area...
Chicago (city limits) - the south side.
Chicago Suburbs - the southern suburbs directly south of the city and NW Indiana to a lesser extent.
Northern IL (excluding Chicagoland) - Rockford
Central IL - Toss up between Danville and Decatur.
Southern IL ( St Louis metro) - East St. Louis.
Southern IL (Little Egypt) - Cairo.
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Old 01-27-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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I know plenty about Gary. But is it the only city like this in the state? While Gary may be a posterchild of urban poverty, Southern Indiana is a posterchild of rural/suburban white poverty. Me being in the neighboring state, I know plenty about the dark underside of Southern Indiana just across the river. Until moving to Louisville, I had absolutely no idea Southern Indiana is the way it is, so I'm not sure many people outside the area would understand it either.

Personally, I would think Southern Indiana fits in less. Indiana is Midwest and Rustbelt. Gary is Midwest and Rustbelt. Culturally, politically, economically, everything. Southern Indiana, however, would fit in just perfectly in any state in the Deep South. White poverty, Confederate flags galore, good-ole boy mentality, rural/small town activities are popular like they are in the South. I find Southern Indiana to be just as culturally "southern" as the typically blue collar/southern parts of the Louisville MSA. It's also more "southern" than many parts Louisville, many parts of Lexington, and most of Northern Kentucky.

That's just my $0.02. I'm no expert on Indiana, but to me, Gary and Indiana are both Midwest and Rustbelt. Southern Indiana is NOT Midwest nor Rustbelt. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Seriously. It's my opinion, but I'm open to discussing it because I'm curious about everyone's opinions on Southern Indiana.
Although I've been to southern Indiana, I don't have very much experience with it at all and was only there once. But nevertheless, you're talking about a region within a state and not a particular city. Furthermore, there are plenty of economically repressed rural areas within the country, especially as more folks leave those areas and head to urban areas; as a matter of fact, almost every state has these areas. But not every state has post-industrial, severely hollowed out areas like Gary.
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