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Old 12-29-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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New grad, I live in the Bay right now with my parents and I don't see myself being able to afford to buy a place in SF proper. I don't want to rent - I would like a condo in the city, not the suburbs. I am the only child and my parents are aging so I will need to stay on the West Coast to take care of them.

SF is THE place to be for jobs, but what about Portland and Seattle? How much do they compare (and are software engineers and SaaS sales the supreme leaders of everything there too)? Seattle has a couple tech giants but I'm not sure what else it has going for it. And I know nothing of Portland. And how's the real estate market in these two cities compared to SF?

Note: I visited LA and I hated the traffic and how spread apart everything was so I don't think that's an option.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Well at least in my field (accounting), Seattle has significantly more job opportunities than Portland. Of course, Seattle is a little more expensive than Portland. SF is extremely expensive. I wouldn't even bother with it. $700K for a basic condo....screw that.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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More in Seattle than in Portland. Portland has some big players, but it is beyond compare to Seattle in the job department.

Both cities have astronomically bad traffic, but Seattle's cost is much more justified than Portland's.

What's funny about Portland is that the economy is still worse than average, and it's expensive, yet people are still moving there with no promise of jobs, milk, nor honey.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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More in Seattle than in Portland. Portland has some big players, but it is beyond compare to Seattle in the job department.

Both cities have astronomically bad traffic, but Seattle's cost is much more justified than Portland's.

What's funny about Portland is that the economy is still worse than average, and it's expensive, yet people are still moving there with no promise of jobs, milk, nor honey.
As long as the infrastructure is similar to SF (I can walk everywhere), I don't mind. I plan on walking and taking public transportation everywhere. I only brought up LA traffic because you honestly can't walk and the public transportation is crap.

I think young people are moving to Portland because its SF junior, but you're saying there's nothing there? I only know one person who moved to Portland for a job and it was for Nabisco.

Just searched for top companies in Portland and its a bunch of no-name companies doing nothing innovative. May have to cross Portlandia off my list.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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Seattle has some of the best job opportunities in the country, rated #15 by Forbes.

For greater metro areas, Seattle is #25, with Portland at #31.

With a handful of tech giants, Seattle also has some large employers that need tech workers along with others, such as Costco, Boeing, Weyerhauser, and Nordstrom. These all require support companies in the area, creating more jobs. It's very competitive though, they are all looking for the best, experienced people, and people are still flocking in from other states/countries.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Amazon alone is hiring thousands for their new Downtown Seattle campus.

I have a good friend that moved to Portland and loves it, but he says their job market is just a fraction of Seattle's.
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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Seattle has some of the best job opportunities in the country, rated #15 by Forbes.

For greater metro areas, Seattle is #25, with Portland at #31.

With a handful of tech giants, Seattle also has some large employers that need tech workers along with others, such as Costco, Boeing, Weyerhauser, and Nordstrom. These all require support companies in the area, creating more jobs. It's very competitive though, they are all looking for the best, experienced people, and people are still flocking in from other states/countries.
I took a look at Forbes' best cities for young professionals. I'm talking out of my ass here because I don't know much about other cities, but I have a hard time believing a lot of these cities have the opportunity Forbes say they do. From a big picture standpoint you only hear about innovation and high growth companies in SF, NYC, Austin/Houston, LA, and Seattle. I wouldn't call industries other than tech/investment banking/Capitol politics suited for young professionals. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Just searched for top companies in Portland and its a bunch of no-name companies doing nothing innovative. May have to cross Portlandia off my list.
Portland:
Intel, Nike, Adidas, several techs that you probably haven't heard of (I hadn't until we got into business there) like ON Semiconductor, Triquint, Tektronix, Wafer Tech, Applied Materials.

Cost wise, both Seattle and Portland will seem cheap to you. Seattle is a rung below LA cost-wise, and Portland is a bit below Seattle.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Portland:
Intel, Nike, Adidas, several techs that you probably haven't heard of (I hadn't until we got into business there) like ON Semiconductor, Triquint, Tektronix, Wafer Tech, Applied Materials.

Cost wise, both Seattle and Portland will seem cheap to you. Seattle is a rung below LA cost-wise, and Portland is a bit below Seattle.
Portland also has PacifiCorp, which is a major employer (utility company).
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:22 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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You might want to rethink LA. It's got a lot of tech happening now. So get a car.

There's a few threads: Google Coming to Playa Del Rey
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