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Old 08-01-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I wouldn't be so quick to try and align my city with Cleveland. Is that really better than being considered a bit southern?

How about being similar to a southern industrial city? You may be forgetting a couple of southern cities that St. Louis resembles...
Memphis comes to mind...
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Old 08-01-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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The Ohio River in the eastern section, and the Nebraska southern state line in the western. Though some could argue succesfully that Kansas is a little of both.
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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What strikes people as "southern" in Oklahoma as opposed to Kansas or Nebraska? To me, those three states are pretty similar.

Lexington, KY is a transition zone between the South and Midwest, kinda like Richmond, VA being a transition zone between the South and Mid-Atlantic. The Cincinnati suburbs in Kentucky aren't really southern, those areas might as well be Ohio. For Missouri, I don't really know. Maybe south of I-44?

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Old 08-02-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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What strikes people as "southern" in Oklahoma as opposed to Kansas or Nebraska? To. those three states are pretty similar.

Lexington, KY is a transition zone between the South and Midwest, kinda like Richmond, VA being a transition zone between the South and Mid-Atlantic. The Cincinnati suburbs in Kentucky aren't really southern, those areas might as well be Ohio. For Missouri, I don't really know. Maybe south of I-44?
What's makes it different is everything from the cuisine. the state food is chicken fried steak and fried okra. The red dirt houses with no basements. There is a plantation and a ranching culture. Those are a few things that come to mind.
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Old 08-02-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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What's makes it different is everything from the cuisine. the state food is chicken fried steak and fried okra. The red dirt houses with no basements. There is a plantation and a ranching culture. Those are a few things that come to mind.
I suppose you're right, yeah. Oklahoma and Texas are pretty similar. Tulsa and areas closer to Arkansas strike me as a little southern. Oklahoma City and areas further west, not so much. It's "cowboy-ish" like Ft. Worth, TX but also struck me as similar to Omaha. In other words, a tossup between "Western" and Midwestern/Lower Midwest. In Tulsa, I could pick up a slight Ozark-ish Upper South vibe along the lines of Arkansas or Southern Missouri.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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Memphis comes to mind...
I've heard this a lot, but I really dont see the physical resemblance. I think they are more culturally similar than aesthetically, but even the cultural comparisons fall off pretty quickly when you get away from BBQ, Blues, and heavy African American influence. On most other measures they couldnt be cut from a more different cloth. I would say border cities like Baltimore, Louisville, Cincinnati etc. are more similar. Memphis is way more culturally conservative with a Bible Beltish feel.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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Memphis comes to mind...
I've heard this a lot, but I really dont see the physical resemblance. I think they are more culturally similar than aesthetically, but even the cultural comparisons fall off pretty quickly when you get away from BBQ, Blues, and heavy African American influence. On most other measures they couldnt be cut from a more different cloth. I would say border cities like Baltimore, Louisville, Cincinnati etc. are more similar. Memphis is way more culturally conservative with a Bible Beltish feel.
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Ohio river, but it isn't a really defined line. A lot of my family is from the Louisville area (though they moved when they were children, so consider Florida home), and there are Midwest and Southern characteristics in the extend family family up there (some drawls and deep fried foods, but half the family is German Catholic/not religious, etc.).

Likewise, I know at least one Southern Baptist who is from northern Missouri, a place not normally affiliated with the South. So yeah, all hose border states slowly blur from South to Midwest. But it is all about how the people themselves identify.
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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It's hard to say. Parts of Southern Indiana feel more Southern than parts of Northern Kentucky.
I've met a few people from Indiana that I could have sworn were from the South until they told me otherwise.
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Old 08-02-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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In many ways, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Kentucky are all in the same boat. You could possibly throw West Virginia in there, too.
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