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View Poll Results: Do you use winter tires?
Yes 20 30.30%
No 37 56.06%
We don't get snow here 9 13.64%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-06-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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From my experience, even people that are against them become converts when they experience improved traction and stopping power.
And the stopping power is the most important difference. Stopping 15 or 20 feet sooner could make all the difference in the world.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Right, the only arguments here are from the rural Rockies (makes sense) and Canadians, who are apparently required to put them on their vehicles. No one else uses them. Drewcifer, myself, and everyone else in the snowiest regions of the country are experts on driving in the snow, and it's a fact that no one uses them anymore in the Midwest and snowiest regions of the NE! This has been the case for decades.

If you're in extreme alpine environments, it may be smart to mess with changing your tires; if a foreign government requires you to use them, obviously you have to put them on. I too wonder who greased what palms to make it a law up there
I used to switch to winter tires when I had the room to store them. I've always been worried about drifting and slamming into a row of parked cars. That happens every year in my neighborhood.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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I too wonder who greased what palms to make it a law up there
Its just Quebec that has the mandatory snow tire law . and i can find no evidence of palms being greased.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Obviously your choice to minimize your safety by not using snow/winter tires living in such wintery climates,I would have thought the linked videos were self explanatory to the differences of all season/winter tires.
Yeah. If you live in a super wintery climate, then you're definitely minimizing your safety by not changing to a winter tire. In the Mid-Atlantic, most people won't switch because the few horrendous snow days per year aren't worth buying a second set of tires. But if I lived in a car dependent suburb Upstate or in Minneapolis or something, I would definitely switch. Tire Rack tests show that winter tires require 35% less distance to bring a car traveling at 35 miles per hour to a full stop. Now maybe some folks will read that and say "Heh, big deal." That is a big deal!

Can you get away with not switching in wintery climates? Sure. You could also get away with not wearing condoms. A lot of people do. Not necessarily the best idea, though, especially if you have to drive all the time as opposed to a city like New York where extensive transit is an option. I would definitely do it with a wife shuttling kids all over the suburbs.

Most people usually skimp on tires anyway. The bargain all-season tire you bought from Sam's Wholesale Club is not going to grip the same as the PS3.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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You spend the same amount in the long run. Get a used set of wheels on Craigslist (I got lucky and got a set of OEM's for $40 but they can be had for $100 or so). With running two sets of tires, you preserve wear and tear on both and thus will last as longer than running just one set all year round.

And for those that have high performance tires it even makes more sense as those tires a probably a bit more costly than dedicated snow tires.
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Old 01-06-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Place of residence: Indianapolis

Do you own snow tires: no
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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You spend the same amount in the long run. Get a used set of wheels on Craigslist (I got lucky and got a set of OEM's for $40 but they can be had for $100 or so). With running two sets of tires, you preserve wear and tear on both and thus will last as longer than running just one set all year round.
Excellent point. I was going to revise my post to say that but you beat me to it.

There's no question winter tires perform immensely better than all seasons in wintery conditions. The only question is if you believe you really need the extra safety (either because your area doesn't get much snow or you simply believe you're that skilled a driver). I can't imagine any scenario where I would not take the 35% better braking. That can be the difference between going home safely and incident free or disaster (like slamming into children in a crosswalk).

Buying used tires is fine so long as you run the TIN first.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...150106210428:s
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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At 60 kph (37 mph) it took the car with all seasons an additional 31.5 meters (103 feet) to come to a complete stop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIfmMulIwg
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Yeah. If you live in a super wintery climate, then you're definitely minimizing your safety by not changing to a winter tire. In the Mid-Atlantic, most people won't switch because the few horrendous snow days per year aren't worth buying a second set of tires. But if I lived in a car dependent suburb Upstate or in Minneapolis or something, I would definitely switch.
And you would be the only person in Minneapolis who switched his tires - that's the point here. People who actually live in the snowiest regions of the Midwest and NE have been and continue to come onto this thread stating that they do not use snow tires. I put on high miles, and have been through blizzards you couldn't even imagine. Have never been in an accident; have never used snow tires. No one does. Minny, Indy, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, all of us have come on here and stated this.
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Old 01-06-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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And you would be the only person in Minneapolis who switched his tires - that's the point here. People who actually live in the snowiest regions of the Midwest and NE have been and continue to come onto this thread stating that they do not use snow tires. I put on high miles, and have been through blizzards you couldn't even imagine. Have never been in an accident; have never used snow tires. No one does. Minny, Indy, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, all of us have come on here and stated this.
So you're telling me for a fact that snow tires have NEVER been purchased by residents of these cities? That's a bold statement.

So would I be correct in saying NONE of the local tire shops stock snow tires
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