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Old 04-20-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Rents have been dropping in the twin cities, so there's now a huge difference regarding the price of one bedroom apartments. I remember you said you did restaurant work. Portland pays slightly higher but cheaper housing should help you a great deal.

Make sure that you factor in sales tax, however.
I'm a chef so I know the restaurant industry pretty well. If the OP works in restaurants I would definitely suggest the Twin Cities. The restaurant industry here is currently going through an acute labor shortage and as a result the back of the house pay scale is increasing sharply right now. As recently as two years ago the pay range for line cooks was $8 to $13 an hour. Since then it has increased to $11 to $17 and hour. The average rate for a veteran line cook is around $15. My guess is that wages will continue to rise until they are high enough that they draw in enough migrants from other parts of the country to bring the labor market back into equilibrium. The same thing happened in the '90s when the kitchen pay scale nearly doubled in five years. Front of the house jobs are also plentiful and since most places are busy these days, tips are good. Labor shortages are great for the working class.
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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Rents have been dropping in the twin cities, so there's now a huge difference regarding the price of one bedroom apartments. I remember you said you did restaurant work. Portland pays slightly higher but cheaper housing should help you a great deal.
I think the other thing that makes Mpls look more expensive on paper when you look at 'average rent' is that it has a number of really nice but pricier areas that skew the averages up, like the high-end condos around Lake of the Isles, the redevelopment (ok, so it's probably 15-20 years old at this point it's still "new" to me) in Uptown, and the high rises downtown.

I'm pretty sure almost all the data that gets published is based on mean and not median, so the share of high-end stock Mpls has to offer is probably making a difference. Even if you can go 15 blocks east to Whittier or any number of other options and prices are just fine.

St. Paul averages about $50/mo lower than Mpls on paper even though outside of the top-end stuff the housing stock and access to amenities doesn't strike me as all that different.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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It depends what areas of the midwest you're comparing to with the west coast. If you're comparing rural Minnesota with the Bay Area then there is a huge difference with rents. I heard that jobs in the midwest don't pay as much, which is why rents are so low. You can't have high pay and low rents, it just won't happen.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:00 AM
 
Location: West of the Rockies
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Omaha is cheap. The highest end apartments would probably be the equivalent of something in the ghetto of SoCal as far as rent prices go.
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Quit using the word cheap. The proper word is affordable.
I think cheap is the word that angers a lot of the non coastal folks.
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Old 04-14-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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Definitely cheaper. If you think having access to the ocean and mountains is worth being an indentured servant then go for it and live on the West coast. If you want enough money to do THINGS. the midwest is definitely cheaper. Even the biggest city(Chicago) has rents under 1000 in certain areas that are NOT ghetto.

In California people are paying 2000 to rent a ROOM in a house. Not an apartment. a ROOM
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:58 PM
 
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Chicago is my very Midwest City by far and yes its cheaper than the East and West Coast but its still pricey. Midwestern Cities like St. Louis, Cincy, Indy and KC are pretty cheap on average compared to the rest of the country.
I don't know. I'd say all of what is considered "flyby" country is pretty affordable. It's only in the West Coast and Northeast where things are expensive.

Florida is becoming more like the Northeast in some respects so that's changing
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