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Old 04-18-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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I'd be grateful to folks who can recommend some cities or large towns that fulfill what I'm looking for.

In order of importance:
1. Gets all four seasons, including hot summers and snowy winters
2. Has hills (the bigger the better) and isn't flat
3. Has overall progressive/liberal culture (ideally without too much of the "crunchy granola")
4. Has a decent amount of jobs in the technology sector
5. Has a decent amount of "hip" cultural amenities (coffee shops, museums, touring musicians, fun bars, etc.)

Bonus points for places that are in the Northeast but aren't in Pennsylvania. I'm trying to avoid the rampant gas drilling/fracking.

Cities I've shortlisted so far:
New York: Awesome, but flat. Big city feel makes the flatness less noticeable though.
Boston: Flat, with the exception of some shallow rolling hills in the 'burbs. Seems a little old-money.
Northampton, MA: Flat, probably too tiny.
Ithaca, NY: Seems too small, and probably not enough technology jobs.
Chicago: Way too flat.
Denver & Boulder: Too isolated and far from the Northeast, and the city itself is very flat. Not really into the 24/7 jogging/rock climbing/yoga/weed culture of Boulder either.
Toronto: Flat.
Syracuse: Kind of flat, and pretty small. Not much to do except go to Syracuse University?
Montpelier, VT: Sweet hills/mountains, but seems to have little/no night life or notable cultural amenities.
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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I'd be grateful to folks who can recommend some cities or large towns that fulfill what I'm looking for.

In order of importance:
1. Gets all four seasons, including hot summers and snowy winters
2. Has hills (the bigger the better) and isn't flat
3. Has overall progressive/liberal culture (ideally without too much of the "crunchy granola")
4. Has a decent amount of jobs in the technology sector
5. Has a decent amount of "hip" cultural amenities (coffee shops, museums, touring musicians, fun bars, etc.)

Bonus points for places that are in the Northeast but aren't in Pennsylvania. I'm trying to avoid the rampant gas drilling/fracking.

Cities I've shortlisted so far:
New York: Awesome, but flat. Big city feel makes the flatness less noticeable though.
Boston: Flat, with the exception of some shallow rolling hills in the 'burbs. Seems a little old-money.
Northampton, MA: Flat, probably too tiny.
Ithaca, NY: Seems too small, and probably not enough technology jobs.
Chicago: Way too flat.
Denver & Boulder: Too isolated and far from the Northeast, and the city itself is very flat. Not really into the 24/7 jogging/rock climbing/yoga/weed culture of Boulder either.
Toronto: Flat.
Syracuse: Kind of flat, and pretty small. Not much to do except go to Syracuse University?
Montpelier, VT: Sweet hills/mountains, but seems to have little/no night life or notable cultural amenities.
Syracuse is pretty hilly and has some things outside of the University. Ithaca actually has some technology jobs, but it is a small metro. Both WOULD fit, as long as you can find a job.

Albany may be the Upstate NY metro to look into, as it fits what you are looking for.
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Aiken, SC
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Sounds like Burlington,VT is the place for you.
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Boston
NYC
Chicago
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
St. Paul
Cincinnati
Kansas City
St. Louis
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Old 04-18-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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Thanks for the recommendations so far!

FreddyG, I've not looked into Burlington yet, but after a cursory web search, it's looking like a true contender!
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Pittsburgh would probably be your best bet. It gets all 4 seasons, is one of the hilliest cities in the US much like San Francisco, it has a fairly liberal culture but nowhere near as hipstery as Portland, it is having a large tech job boom currently , and it definitely has a lot of coffee shops and bars especially in neighborhoods like Squirrel Hill, Regent Square, and Shadyside. It also has a very low COL.
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I agree with others that Pittsburgh is your best bet (note, I'm a transplant, not a homer). Don't let fracking scare you. It's banned in the city, and there is very little fracking going on even in Allegheny County. It's really something which is done in the outlying exurban/rural areas of Southwestern Pennsylvania.

Regardless, Pittsburgh otherwise hits all your requirements. It has the weather. It has topography in spades (easily the hilliest city east of the Mississippi). It's hip and progressive. And between the startup culture associated with Carnegie Mellon University, and Google's investment in the city, it's got a pretty thriving tech center for a small city.

I also know quite a good deal about Northampton. I went to school in Amherst, and spent a lot of time in Noho, and my mother lived there for nine years after retirement. It's a great little city with a cool walkable core - impressive for its size, although it's still small enough to get confining after a few years. The job market sucks though, and the cost of living isn't really that great (better than Boston for sure, but much more expensive overall than it is out here in Pittsburgh).
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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Any other recommendations? I'm experiencing some analysis paralysis right now, and any further recommendations or advice would be much appreciated!

I'm no longer limiting my search to the Northeast, if that makes any difference.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Albuquerque. Hits everything, from heat and snow, hills and mountains, UNM (high in liberals), and a strong tech presence (Intel, anyone?). As I like to say, the unique cuisine is just icing on the cake(no pun intended)!
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Old 08-26-2015, 06:09 AM
 
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I'd be grateful to folks who can recommend some cities or large towns that fulfill what I'm looking for.

In order of importance:
1. Gets all four seasons, including hot summers and snowy winters
2. Has hills (the bigger the better) and isn't flat
3. Has overall progressive/liberal culture (ideally without too much of the "crunchy granola")
4. Has a decent amount of jobs in the technology sector
5. Has a decent amount of "hip" cultural amenities (coffee shops, museums, touring musicians, fun bars, etc.)
Not sure how the Washington DC area has evaded your radar but it certainly hits all of your criteria. It gets all four seasons, is hilly (check out Northwest DC, Arlington VA just across the river or the Dulles corridor in Northern VA), has a progressive/liberal population minus crunchy granola, a substantial number of tech jobs and all the "hip amenities" you could hope for including world-class museums, great bars and coffee shops plus all of the touring acts.
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