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Old 05-04-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Earlier in this thread someone claimed Quebec was settled by the French because it was uninhabited. One Native American tribe had driven the other one out. Looks like this typical narrative falls apart upon closer inspection.
The area around Montreal was not inhabited around the time the French settled it. At some point previously there was an aboriginal village on the town site called Hochelaga. Jacques Cartier, who visited the area several decades (in the 1500s) before it was settled by the French, reported on Hochelaga, but when Ville-Marie was founded in the 1600s by Maisonneuve, the village and its inhabitants were gone.


Hochelaga was not a Mohawk village, even though the latter are the main aboriginal group living in the Montreal area today.


The French also encountered aboriginals living in other areas, such as Micmacs in the Gaspé, and the Iroquois/Huron people in the present-day Quebec City area.


I believe Hochelaga was a village populated by the same nation as those aboriginals in Quebec City.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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You are right. We don't expect Americans to know this. Americans are a great neighbour so I am not going to do that stupid "fat dumb Americans" stereotype.

However it is, I want to show my appreciation from the comments from our great ally to the south.

thank you, we're not all fat
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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I would venture that most Americans don't know how possible Quebec's secession is or don't care since it doesn't directly affect their day to day lives in any tangible way. Personally I'm all for self-determination. If the majority of Quebec's people do not want to be a part of Canada then I say for go for it
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:30 PM
 
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Two countries on the US northern border is more complicated than one, so no. Also, duplicating institutions simply creates more bureaucracy and will be a drag on your standard of living.
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Old 05-08-2016, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I'm in favor of Quebec independence if for no other reason than I'm an aspiring national anthem composer and work has been a bit slow lately...Viva la Quebec!...cue the flute player
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Old 05-08-2016, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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Quebec deserves independence. It's the only part of Canada that I have an inclination to visit.
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Old 05-08-2016, 05:55 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Two countries on the US northern border is more complicated than one, so no. Also, duplicating institutions simply creates more bureaucracy and will be a drag on your standard of living.
More complicated??
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:12 AM
 
Location: US
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Well I don't have a dog in that fight, but I wish you all the best with it.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Correct. There is no impulse in the Canadian Maritimes to join the US and I doubt there would be even if Quebec became independent.

I would not be so sure about that. I have spoken to people from the Maritimes about the prospect of Quebec seceding from Canada. The maritime provinces would essentially be cut off from the rest of Canada if this were to happen. The provinces are in many respects are more similar to New England 9especially coastal NE) than the rest of Canada. The people I knew indicated they would want to link up with New England if Quebec exited Canada.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles,CA & Scottsdale, AZ
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I personally think it would be pretty cool if Quebec became its own country...would add another country to North America which would be neat.
On the other hand, my Canadian friends (from Calgary, Toronto, and Vancouver) all scoff at Quebec for wanting independence and think it's a complete joke.
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