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Old 04-24-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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Sounds a lot like Silver Spring.
LOL.

I was actually jumped at the Silver Spring metro around 15 years ago (yes, I'm serious). Some kid tried to play the "knock-out game" on me.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Not true. Around 70% of Connecticut is in the NYC metro.

And I can think of tons of famous suburbs in Connecticut. Greenwich, Darien, Westport, New Canaan and the like are all well known, and usually represented as the archetypical wealthy NYC suburbs (see films like Stepford Wives, Revolutionary Road, the Good Shepherd and the like).

These are the stereotypical suburbs where Wall Street execs and management-level people live.

In fact, when I think "rich NYC suburb", Greenwich is the first place that pops in my head. I think many would agree.
I just did the math for the 3 CSA counties and got about 54%. How do you figure 70? And that is CSA not MSA.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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1. I agree with BajanYankee. Fredericksburg, VA is a MUCH better dividing line between The Northeast and The South of today than the Mason-Dixon Line is. (I might be willing to move the line north to the Occoquan River, but no more than that.)

4. The DC equivalent to the fall foliage is the cherry blossoms in the springtime. Now, don't get me wrong, I think cherry blossoms are beautiful and I love them. But I don't need to brave the crowds in DC to see them; I have a cherry tree right next to my house that, right this moment, is in glorious full bloom. And in that same vein, lots of places besides New England have trees whose leaves turn color in the fall.

8. Stars Hollow was so "quirky" that it would have driven me insane to actually live in a place like that.

9. Connecticut irks me. Not entirely sure why, but it does.

12. Preposterous. OF COURSE there are more parts of New Jersey than what this article claims. There's also the parts you can see from the New Jersey Turnpike!

18. Personally, I like seeing the crosses. I wish the Northeast had more of them. (I do know that they exist out in Western Maryland, but I'm sure lots of people wouldn't count that as part of the Northeast.)
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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1. I agree with BajanYankee. Fredericksburg, VA is a MUCH better dividing line between The Northeast and The South of today than the Mason-Dixon Line is. (I might be willing to move the line north to the Occoquan River, but no more than that.)

4. The DC equivalent to the fall foliage is the cherry blossoms in the springtime. Now, don't get me wrong, I think cherry blossoms are beautiful and I love them. But I don't need to brave the crowds in DC to see them; I have a cherry tree right next to my house that, right this moment, is in glorious full bloom. And in that same vein, lots of places besides New England have trees whose leaves turn color in the fall.

8. Stars Hollow was so "quirky" that it would have driven me insane to actually live in a place like that.

9. Connecticut irks me. Not entirely sure why, but it does.

12. Preposterous. OF COURSE there are more parts of New Jersey than what this article claims. There's also the parts you can see from the New Jersey Turnpike!

18. Personally, I like seeing the crosses. I wish the Northeast had more of them. (I do know that they exist out in Western Maryland, but I'm sure lots of people wouldn't count that as part of the Northeast.)
Says the outsider.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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LOL.

I was actually jumped at the Silver Spring metro around 15 years ago (yes, I'm serious). Some kid tried to play the "knock-out game" on me.
It would be racist of me to form a mental image of your attacker . . . but I did it anyway.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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OK, so now I get what you're arguing. I definitely think you're wrong, but at least I get the line of reasoning.

In your opinion, a metro area is equivalent to an MSA, and not a CSA.

So, in your estimation, rural counties in PA 120 miles from Manhattan are "NYC" while urban counties close to Manhattan are not "NYC". Or, you think that empty desert land far from LA is "LA" while urbanized suburbs close to LA are not "LA". Or you think that SF is totally separate from Silicon Valley and they have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Silicon Valley may as well be in Japan, and Stanford may as well be on the moon, and both have nothing whatsoever to do with the tech growth in the SF Bay Area.

In the real world, CT would be less urbanized and linked with NYC if it were only MSA, and not CSA. The reason CT is part of the CSA is because CT, unlike Long Island, or Westchester, or most of Northern NJ, is a massive jobs center. Stamford is the most important jobs center in the NYC region outside of the regional core.

Saying that CT is not the metro area because it has its own jobs area is complete nonsense. If Long Island were to develop some highrise jobs center tomorrow, it wouldn't make LI less a part of the NYC region. It would just mean that it has a commercial hub now. Or, to take SF, if Silicon Valley crumbled tomorrow, then it would become part of the MSA, not the CSA. But that would be a bad thing, not a good thing, and make Silicon Valley less integrated with SF, not more.

And most of Connecticut definitely feels like its part of the NYC area. The busiest suburban rail line in the NYC area is in Connecticut, and the busiest suburban stations are in Connecticut. Coastal CT (where most people live) are very tied into NYC, every bit as much as the NY State and NJ suburbs (and much, much moreso than the PA parts of the metro area). The entire CT economy is linked to the NYC economy. CT is, by far, the most important financial center in the U.S. outside of Manhattan and has more hedge funds than anywhere on earth outside of Manhattan.
What a joke. I have lived in all parts of CT, my entire life and what you say is just plain wrong.

The ONLY area of CT that legitimately feels like it's part of NYC suburbs is Fairfield County and a small portion of New Haven County. The Hartford area and New London County feel NOTHING like NYC...at all. The vast majority of CT residents do not live in the area of CT that feels like NYC, which is a small portion of the state. As soon as you cross the border from Fairfield into New Haven County, the vibe TOTALLY changes.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Says the outsider.
Yeah, I know, we Marylanders keep on saying we belong in the exclusive Club Northeast, but there's always some folks trying to keep us out.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Yeah, I know, we Marylanders keep on saying we belong in the exclusive Club Northeast, but there's always some folks trying to keep us out.
By the definitions of the article you are not! That's the funny part.

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Old 04-24-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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Interesting that the article only explicitly mentions 3 states - CT, NY, and NJ. "New England town" is used and could of course mean anywhere, but they mention Gilmore Girls in particular so CT, and Paul Revere is mentioned (obviously conjures an image of MA), but no other states are actually mentioned in particular. I wonder if the person who wrote this even considered PA; I also wonder if they're from the NYC metro region.
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Interesting that the article only explicitly mentions 3 states - CT, NY, and NJ. "New England town" is used and could of course mean anywhere, but they mention Gilmore Girls in particular so CT, and Paul Revere is mentioned (obviously conjures an image of MA), but no other states are actually mentioned in particular. I wonder if the person who wrote this even considered PA; I also wonder if they're from the NYC metro region.
I thought that was implied by saying he (or she) would never live south of the Mason-Dixon.
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