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Old 04-27-2015, 10:12 PM
 
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You are 100% on the history similarities, but I think that's where similarities end.
That's the thread topic...despite their SIMILAR HISTORY why is Virginia today so different from Massachusetts? The topic is asking why they are so different now when they were so much more similar then.

I guess the historical similarities between the two colonies/states began to wane due to different views on slavery and the more agrarian economy of Virginia.

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Old 04-27-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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Virginia (except for Northern Virginia) is perhaps the most conservative state in the nation, and is perhaps the state that first comes to mind when the word "Confederacy" is mentioned to a Yankee.
OK, let's stop right here because you're wrong.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:12 AM
 
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That's the thread topic...despite their SIMILAR HISTORY why is Virginia today so different from Massachusetts? The topic is asking why they are so different now when they were so much more similar then.
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Well, they are in different regions. They are culturally different, and kind of always have been. They have similar histories as being states where the earliest European settlements in the New World were, but that's about it as far as I know.
That last sentence was also me saying: they have similar histories, but so what?

Others elaborated more. I was actually going to mention weather like NJBrazen but that seemed trivial - but I'm glad someone else thought of it too.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:35 AM
 
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Virginia (except for Northern Virginia) is perhaps the most conservative state in the nation, and is perhaps the state that first comes to mind when the word "Confederacy" is mentioned to a Yankee. Ironically, Massachusetts is now known to be perhaps the most liberal state in the country, and is the state that is perhaps thought to be the most "Yankee" of all Northern/Midwestern/Western states (but of course is far from the biggest of all those).
Have you even BEEN to Virginia?! That first sentence of yours is way out there.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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Virginia outside NOVA is the most conservative state in the nation? HA! Not even close. In fact, Virginia might be the most liberal of all the southern states (even more so than North Carolina).
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:15 AM
 
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They don't have a similar history. One was a slave state, which had a huge cultural and economic impact on the state, which would reverberate for centuries. The other gained large numbers of European immigrants after the industrial revolution, again with great impact on cultural and economic outcome..

Also, simple historical association cannot iron out differences in geography and climate, which enforce their own trajectories of cultural and economic development.

You might as well ask why Wisconsin and California are so different, both having gained statehood about the same time.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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Well, one thing is for sure. Virginia is a heck of a lot warmer than Massachusetts.

I'm heading to Virginia Beach this summer. I wonder if I'd be eager to take a dip in the ocean beach in Massachusetts, even in the middle of July.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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Massachusetts is just so far up north. I'd compare Virginia to Pennsylvania if I had to compare Virginia to a northern state. Leaving Maryland out, which basically sits in the middle. Even then, there are plenty of differences between Virginia and Pennsylvania. I think Virginia is more similar to North Carolina than any other state, although some folks would definitely say Maryland.
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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Massachusetts is just so far up north. I'd compare Virginia to Pennsylvania if I had to compare Virginia to a northern state. Leaving Maryland out, which basically sits in the middle. Even then, there are plenty of differences between Virginia and Pennsylvania. I think Virginia is more similar to North Carolina than any other state, although some folks would definitely say Maryland.
VA and NC are very different historically...I think the point is that despite their historic similarities, VA and MA are very different today.
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Yes, I addressed that:



That last sentence was also me saying: they have similar histories, but so what?

Others elaborated more. I was actually going to mention weather like NJBrazen but that seemed trivial - but I'm glad someone else thought of it too.
You also said this: "You are 100% on the history similarities, but I think that's where similarities end", which is what I was referring to. It is exactly what the OP said.
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