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Old 06-24-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I seriously doubt the 42nd largest TV Market can support three of the top 4 sport leagues in this country. Two yes and it could be a race between the NFL and MLB. But both, nah.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Smaller Canadian cities like Winnipeg or Quebec City can get a pass even though they'd be considered too small for an US city to host a team--yes, Hamilton would probably be the last Canadian city they would consider(and has been considered) though Toronto would complain--though Southern Ontario could support another team since Toronto's hockey market is so strong(and with the Maple Leafs being a steaming pile for most of the last twenty years yet selling out, it's a good case that you could get fans).

For northern cities in the US, maybe Milwaukee would possibly be a candidate. I'd love to see the Hartford Whalers come back, but I doubt they'll ever have a team again. I don't know where else they'd consider, Albany doesn't seem like a pro sports town and I don't know if Grand Rapids would be too small.

They still want a team in Seattle, but Seattle as usual takes their time in building anything.
Except for new apartments and office towers.

The Seattle City Council recently rejected the SoDo basketball/hockey arena among great negative backlash. But Seattle elected these folks so I can't blame the Council directly.

Seattle is indeed a prime candidate for the NHL if they can get an arena built "somewhere" around the metro. I have no doubt Seattle could support the NHL, and as many have said, would be a keen rivalry with the Canucks. (However they said the same thing with the Sonics and the Grizzlies, and both of them are...wait for it...not anywhere near Seattle or Vancouver.)
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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I have my doubts. Have you ever seen a hockey jersey in Seattle? Or a kid playing hockey in the street? We turn out thousands for our minor league teams in the north and south fringes of the metro but I don't know if that would translate to NHL.

Basketball would be an instant success of course.
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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The NHL made it official yesterday that they are expanding. They awarded the expansion franchise to Las Vegas.

With the NHL entering the market, now Las Vegas is a professional sports market officially. It doesn't end there, as mentioned before, the NFL's Raiders are progressing towards a move to Las Vegas as well and if all goes well, meaning the Nevada state legislature approves the stadium vision and funding, then the Raiders will also be Las Vegas bound.

That's not all. Rob Manfred, the commissioner of the MLB has also put Las Vegas well on the league's radar for the future:

MLB commissioner Rob Manfred says Las Vegas is 'viable alternative'

So Las Vegas, which just got the approval for an NHL expansion team, is also on the immediate radar for the NFL (Raiders) and should get that team when all is said and done, and has also put itself on the expansion radar for both the MLS and the MLB as well.

Just before yesterday, it is unbelievable that Las Vegas was at zero.
In what will prove to be a monumental gaffe. How in the world outside of TV revenue do they plan to exist? Las Vegas doesn't have the population and it's resident allegiances will duplicate what we see in Florida where the home team's fan are often outnumbered by resident fans of the visiting team. Not to mention the requirement for a healthy disposable income which Las Vegas does not have on average with the lowest (if not among a select few) average income of all the major cities. Perhaps there's some kind of belief that people drawn to Vegas for it's gambling/nightlife perks will become bored and want to attend a hockey game? It's completely lacking in logic and once again leaves out a multitude of more obvious cities starved for pro sports and with the quantity of deep pockets needed to support it.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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Add to the fact the casinos have a vested interest to not promote the team. They rather keep the people inside the casinos
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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I'm trying to imagine sitting in an outdoor stadium in Las Vegas during the summer...it would be a literal hell on earth until nightfall. Even shade wouldn't be enough. They'd need a dome with air conditioning. It would get really expensive.
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Old 06-25-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Vegas won't build outdoor stadiums. They aren't stupid. It will be just like the Phoenix area has for their teams. That said, I tend to agree with kyle19125 here. I have my doubts that pro sports can succeed in Las Vegas. Maybe one. But definitely not 3.
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:26 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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The NHL probably made a bad decision with this, but I could be proven wrong. Time will tell.

Seriously, though, how many tourists will be drawn into Vegas to watch the NHL? Maybe some from other markets who would be rooting for "their" team as opposed to the hometown team.

I think this really is more about changing Vegas from a gambling town to an entertainment town. Heck, you can can gamble almost anywhere today, and Vegas is trying to reinvent itself once again. Good luck.
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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Vegas won't build outdoor stadiums. They aren't stupid. It will be just like the Phoenix area has for their teams. That said, I tend to agree with kyle19125 here. I have my doubts that pro sports can succeed in Las Vegas. Maybe one. But definitely not 3.
That's insane to go from 0 to 3 teams in such a short time. San Antonio has had 1 major sports team for 40 years for example and it's a much bigger market, especially when you consider nearby Austin. Don't get me wrong, I want to see a Vegas team succeed, but 3 is overdoing it big and sets all the teams up for failure.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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MLS + Detroit

MLS commissioner: We're going to work 'very hard' to make Detroit work | MLive.com

Gores, Gilbert to try to get a Major League Soccer team in Detroit

$1B investment in Detroit to include Major League Soccer stadium
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