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Old 05-01-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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College and pro are like comparing apples to oranges. Many cities have both major league sports teams and major college teams. For example Chicago has the Bears for football and also the Wildcats from Northwestern a major Big 10 school located in Evanston right out the city limits and Minneapolis has both the NFL Vikings and also the Gophers from the University of Minnesota another Big 10 school located right in the city of Minneapolis. Also Red John I would add Columbus and maybe Louisville as honorable mention for the NFL
Those Big 10 programs don't have the same influence/pull as the programs in the other Big 10 markets either. Plus they are in the 1st and 3rd biggest markets in the Midwest.

I honestly couldn't see either of those areas get an NFL team due to having such strong college sports markets and perhaps proximity issues(Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Tennessee(Nashville)).
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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Those Big 10 programs don't have the same influence/pull as the programs in the other Big 10 markets either. Plus they are in the 1st and 3rd biggest markets in the Midwest.

I honestly couldn't see either of those areas get an NFL team due to having such strong college sports markets and perhaps proximity issues(Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Tennessee(Nashville)).
It's different for a city like Chicago or Atlanta to have a major college team than it is for a city the size of Austin to have a HUGE college team like Texas.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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It's different for a city like Chicago or Atlanta to have a major college team than it is for a city the size of Austin to have a HUGE college team like Texas.
People always say this, but I doubt it is really true. When pro sports enter a market, college sports can remain important but the pro sport typically becomes the dominant force. People in Atlanta love their Georgia bulldogs (and to a lesser extent Ga Tech Yellow Jackets).

The percentage of people in Austin who actually have strong ties to UT-Austin isn't really THAT high. There's easily more than a million people who arent. These may be fans just because it is the local team, but if an NFL team were there, they'd support that team.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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People always say this, but I doubt it is really true. When pro sports enter a market, college sports can remain important but the pro sport typically becomes the dominant force. People in Atlanta love their Georgia bulldogs (and to a lesser extent Ga Tech Yellow Jackets).

The percentage of people in Austin who actually have strong ties to UT-Austin isn't really THAT high. There's easily more than a million people who arent. These may be fans just because it is the local team, but if an NFL team were there, they'd support that team.
I didn't mean to say that Austin couldn't support a professional team, but football would probably be a hard sell. NBA or NHL would probably be the best for Austin.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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- NBA: 1) Seattle, WA; 2) Louisville, KY OR Cincinnati, OH; 3) San Diego, CA; 4) Kansas City, MO; 5) Las Vegas, NV; 6) Pittsburgh, PA; 7) Saint Louis, MO; 8) Austin, TX; 9) Tampa, FL; 10) Albuquerque, NM.

Honorable mention: Columbus, OH; Raleigh, NC; Buffalo, NY.

- NFL: 1) Los Angeles, CA; 2) Toronto, ON; 3) San Antonio, TX; 4) Las Vegas, NV; 5) Portland, OR; 6) Sacramento, CA; 7) Raleigh, NC; 8) Virginia Beach, VA.

- MLS: 1) Phoenix, AZ; 2) Minneapolis, MN; 3) San Antonio, TX; 4) New Orleans, LA; 5) Las Vegas, NV; 6) San Diego, CA; 7) Saint Louis, MO or Kansas City, MO; 8) Austin, TX; 9) Sacramento, CA.

- NHL: 1) Seattle, WA; 2) Quebec City, QC; 3) Houston, TX; 4) Atlanta, GA; 5) Kansas City, MO [Sprint Center is ready].

- MLB: 1) Austin, TX; 2) Sacramento, CA; 3) Las Vegas, NV; 4) Indianapolis, IN; 5) Charlotte, NC.

Wanted to give more to Orlando and Austin but their location 80 miles from bigger sports markets like Tampa and San Antonio hinder them. Orlando is getting an MLS team though.
Kansas City and Minneapolis have MLS teams.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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I'd like to see the Whalers back in Hartford. Sounds like the support is there, but the stadium is a big issue.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:03 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Albuquerque, NM
City: 545,000 MSA: 900,000 CSA: 1.1million

It could certainly support a major league franchise.
There's not enough money in ABQ to support it. Burqueños are mostly happy backing teams like Cowboys or Broncos.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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This story made the rounds last month on most of the Albuquerque forums I frequent, including here on City-Data:

Exclusive: ABQ could support a Major League Soccer team (and a NHL, NBA or NFL team isn't out of the question) - Albuquerque Business First

It says that the city has the economic capacity or near-capacity to support 4 of the 5 major league sports discussed in this thread. The only one for which that isn't true is MLB with its 80 or so home games a year. MLS was the only one which the city is deemed by the report ready to support now from an economic standpoint. A team in the NBA, NFL and NHL would be borderline in terms of whether the city and area has the economic ability to support it.

That is going by using the total personal income in the Albuquerque-Santa Fe CSA.

Something else to consider is that the Albuquerque media market is quite a bit larger than the metro or even the CSA. It stretches from northeast Arizona and southwest/southern Colorado to include most of New Mexico (excepting Las Cruces, which is in the El Paso media market). This area has over 2 million people and is the 44th largest media market in the country, so quite a bit higher in rank than the Albuquerque MSA (59th) and a fair bit higher than the Albuquerque-Santa Fe CSA (53rd).

Top 100 Television Markets - Station Index

The fact that the media market is almost twice as large as the CSA used to measure the city's capacity to support a major league team means that this caveat noted in the article most likely would not go against Albuquerque's favor:

"But the analysis noted that borderline markets 'may or may not be able to support a franchise, depending on the team's ability to reach fans beyond the market's boundaries.'"

People in Las Cruces would definitely support and root for a team in Albuquerque, so that adds another 200,000 people outside the media market we could conceivably be able to draw from.

The Colorado and Arizona portions of our media market would be more likely to support the existing teams in their states, but there might be some who would support an Albuquerque team. But the vast majority of our media market is made up of New Mexicans who would see an Albuquerque-based team as their home or state team.
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:59 AM
 
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VA Beach is getting ready to break ground this fall on an 18,000 seat arena at the Oceanfront across the street from the Convention Center, curious to see how that plays out.
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:52 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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The only way Austin gets a major pro sports team is when it combines its metro area with San Antonio. And that may take a while...
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