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Old 05-04-2015, 10:46 AM
 
Location: DC
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Also how high Baltimore is rated. I surmise it is mostly its proximity to D.C. that pushes it up so high, but even then I'm not sure exactly why.

I thought it was full of poor people.
Baltimore itself is full of poor people. This is the MSA though, and that is where it gets tricky. For example Howard County is in the Baltimore MSA, but most of the people who live there work in DC and Montgomery County in high paying jobs.

So it is not Baltimore pusing the number out, its the burbs which have many people working in the DC area. Or work for federal agencies like the NSA in those burbs.

With that being said, many people do not quite grasp how affluent DC is because DC does not flout it as much as other places. The professional dress style means a entry level employee and an executive are hard to distinguish. Being to ostenatatious is a bit frowned upon.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:56 AM
 
Location: The City
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Baltimore itself is full of poor people. This is the MSA though, and that is where it gets tricky. For example Howard County is in the Baltimore MSA, but most of the people who live there work in DC and Montgomery County in high paying jobs.

So it is not Baltimore pusing the number out, its the burbs which have many people working in the DC area. Or work for federal agencies like the NSA in those burbs.

With that being said, many people do not quite grasp how affluent DC is because DC does not flout it as much as other places. The professional dress style means a entry level employee and an executive are hard to distinguish. Being to ostenatatious is a bit frowned upon.
according to the most recent census county of residence to county of work

Howard has 147,539 people who work

39.9% live and work in Howard

29.3% Live in Howard and commute to AA or Baltimore County/City

27.3% Commute to DC MSA counties
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Baltimore itself is full of poor people. This is the MSA though, and that is where it gets tricky. For example Howard County is in the Baltimore MSA, but most of the people who live there work in DC and Montgomery County in high paying jobs.

So it is not Baltimore pusing the number out, its the burbs which have many people working in the DC area. Or work for federal agencies like the NSA in those burbs.

With that being said, many people do not quite grasp how affluent DC is because DC does not flout it as much as other places. The professional dress style means a entry level employee and an executive are hard to distinguish. Being to ostenatatious is a bit frowned upon.
There's no doubt that Baltimore's economy is linked with DC. That being said, I think it's unfair to just cast Baltimore off as offering nothing of economic importance. That's just ridiculous.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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There's no doubt that Baltimore's economy is linked with DC. That being said, I think it's unfair to just cast Baltimore off as offering nothing of economic importance. That's just ridiculous.
^^^^Exactly I think some people just think the whole world revolves around DC in the Baltimore area. Just because there are poor areas does not mean the city is full of poor people.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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Stats for small areas are difficult. I was somewhat surprised by the micropolitan affluence ranking of Cortland, NY compared to Corning, NY and to Sayre, PA. Probably because the latter two are in fairly large land area counties.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Stats for small areas are difficult. I was somewhat surprised by the micropolitan affluence ranking of Cortland, NY compared to Corning, NY and to Sayre, PA. Probably because the latter two are in fairly large land area counties.
Good point, as Steuben County is a big county that includes Hornell, Bath and a bunch of rural communities. Then, you may have to consider that quite a few employees of Corning Inc and the Guthrie Clinic in Sayre may live in the Elmira metro/Chemung County in places like Horseheads and West Elmira.

Also, Cortland/Cortland County may get spillover from the Ithaca and Syracuse metros given its location. It is actually in the Ithaca CSA, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Did the residents of Bumpisville, MS get a deal on the Mayweather-Pacquio fight, or did they have to pay the same hundred bucks?

Also, the Dollar Tree is always the Dollar Tree. It's not the Dollar and a half Tree some places and The Dollar Tree everywhere else.
Television, internet, etc., is a pretty small expense and generally costs the same everywhere.

"Selection may vary by store" is almost always in the ads for any chain store. It pretty much means that different stores in different regions aren't going to have the exact same products probably due to the cost of shipping certain products. Usually the name brand stuff.

Stores like Dollar Tree make profits on volume but everything in their store is usually worth either a little more or a little less than a dollar. It definitely doesn't cost that much to ship the individual products to each store.
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Old 05-05-2015, 07:58 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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How is that irrelevant? Rents are based on the cost of the landlord to operate the property (among other factors), which includes his mortgage on the property. A house with the same square footage might go for $80,000 in rural Mississippi and $800,000 in Manhattan. Needless to say, the NY landlord will have to charge a higher rent to cover his costs than the MS landlord would.
I was responding to a post that said one positive part of higher home values is you're paying money into owning a high value asset, so not you're not really losing that money. That benefit is of course irrelevant to renters, it's only negative for the reason you just said above.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:02 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Also how high Baltimore is rated. I surmise it is mostly its proximity to D.C. that pushes it up so high, but even then I'm not sure exactly why.

I thought it was full of poor people.
Baltimore City has a median household income of $41,000 / year. Relatively low, but many cities are far worse. Baltimore County with a bit more people has a median income of $66,000 / year not affluent but still above the US average. Baltimore city + county is just over half the metro population. The rest of the metro is richer, leading to a rather high median.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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The average person in America is doing middle class or lower level work and does not make lots of money. If you are a barber or Administrative Assistant you don't care that Washington DC is wealthy and Knoxville TN is not. What you do know is that on a Barber or Administrative Assistant type job's income you can't even afford a nice apartment in DC in a safe neighborhood, but in Knoxville TN you can buy a nice single family home with a yard and trees and have something left over.
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