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Old 10-17-2015, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The west coast is liberal in the same sens that the northeast is. The major cities lean that way, meaning the majority population. But outside of that things tend to be moderate to right-wing. New York and California get the least accurate representation in this regard.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:29 AM
 
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Well, the perception that the west coast is liberal comes from the 80% of people who make up those big, liberal cities. People are going to form their perception of a region from the people that live there, so it doesn't really matter that they only take up probably 10% of the geographic area.
But not all of the people in the cities are liberals. Many of the suburbs on the West Coast are conservative, along with a significant number of urban dwellers.
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Old 10-18-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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But not all of the people in the cities are liberals. Many of the suburbs on the West Coast are conservative, along with a significant number of urban dwellers.
You're technically correct, but do keep in mind that King, Multnomah, San Francisco and Los Angeles counties often support Democratic politicians for state, county and congressional offices by proportions exceeding 80 percent. That's one evidentiary item suggesting overwhelming liberalism in these urban centers.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:37 PM
 
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Exactly. Even some self-identified European conservatives are probably to the left of many American "liberals".
FALSE! Viktor Orban and Marine LePenne would be rabid, ultra-far-right, off-the-charts fascists by California standards. The California Republican Party wouldn't even consider them for the primaries. As for Canada, even Stephen Harper would not stand a chance running for governor of California.

You've got to remember that California is far to the left of the rest of the U.S. There are conservative pockets, but for that matter, there are conservative pockets in France and other European countries, too.
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Old Yesterday, 04:35 AM
 
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The West Coast is liberal for the US. 7 states don’t have more self-identified conservatives than liberals. 3 are Pacific states, the other 4 are in New England/New York. Like most democracies, it doesn’t reach some purity threshold for a particular ideology, but it would be a mistake to think it isn’t liberal.

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Old Yesterday, 06:24 AM
 
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The West Coast is liberal for the US. 7 states don’t have more self-identified conservatives than liberals. 3 are Pacific states, the other 4 are in New England/New York. Like most democracies, it doesn’t reach some purity threshold for a particular ideology, but it would be a mistake to think it isn’t liberal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/how...-your-state/4/
Yep. The best educated, most economically vibrant parts of the country. None of the prosperous Northeast Corridor identifies majority conservative. In the rest of the country, the smart, motivated, highly educated people move to the urban areas for the economic opportunities. Anywhere “liberal” has a large amount of inward migration of those people.
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Old Yesterday, 08:05 AM
 
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This kind of annoys me because it's just not true. I'm pretty left wing myself and from the West Coast, but I find most people who live here are pretty conventional and "conservative" in their beliefs and wants even if they vote Democrat. Plus a lot of people vote GOP here. Oregon, Washington and California were "swing states" until up to a couple decades ago and still have a slightly higher proportion of self-identified conservatives than self-identified liberals. Most people here support the death penalty and oppose gun control and many people oppose gay marriage and support the War on Drugs. I'm pretty sure California would be a conservative voting state if the GOP wasn't so racist.

People misunderstand the West Coast mentality. It's not a humanitarian, vegan, feminist, or Marxist identity even if there are a minority of people on the West Coast who are into such things. Nor is it the intensely hedonistic place people might think considering Vegas and Hollywood are here. In fact I'd say Westerners are easily the least "party minded" of Americans, preferring to just hang out with their old friends from high school and most people here are more into drinking than dancing or singing.

It's far more libertarian than "liberal", too - socialism would not fly well even to most "liberal" West Coasters and this region has always been in love with money, from the Gold Rush to Silicon Valley.

Westerners support gay rights and cannabis mostly out of indifference, it's not because Westerners are more enlightened or compassionate than people from other regions, it's merely they are less likely to be Christians and people don't care about who their neighbors are here, or getting to know them.

The same reason people assume those from the South are automatically conservative. I was out on the Monterey in late October, 2016, and everyone at my table devoted a great deal of mental energy telling me how I was a fool to vote for Donald Trump. They simply could not wrap my mind around the fact that I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump with a gun to my head. I finally had to say something very impolite to one person who simply couldn't wrap his mind around it.

In other words, bigotry isn't just confined to race and ethnicity. Pretty much assuming one set of characteristics about anyone without actually talking to him or her is the sign of a closed and lazy mind.
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Old Yesterday, 03:36 PM
 
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The east coast is viewed as just as liberal as the west coast.
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Old Yesterday, 03:51 PM
 
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San Francisco is very liberal. It's also very unprogressive and conservative in some ways, for example, the worst NIMBYS in the country and having a 40 foot hight limit imposed outside of downtown, keeping the city from solving it's homeless emergency.

Portland is very liberal. It's also very unprogressive and conservative in some ways, for example, the city council operates in a one of a kind and inefficient format unchanged from the early 1900s. People view Portland as super liberal in part because it's the home base of Antifa. What they forget or somehow don't know is it's just as much the home base for Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys. I don't think the liberals or conservatives will truly ever win in that city. I won't even mention Portland's history.

I find Los Angeles, Seattle, and San Diego to be alot more "normal" and not as much at war with themselves. IDK.
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Old Yesterday, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Chi > DC > Reno > SEA
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The west coast is liberal in the same sens that the northeast is. The major cities lean that way, meaning the majority population. But outside of that things tend to be moderate to right-wing. New York and California get the least accurate representation in this regard.
Well, the West Coast and Northeast are still a couple of the only places in the country these days where you'll find any significant number of rural counties that are blue (cf. Vermont, northern California).
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