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View Poll Results: Does the Bay Area have a sense of identity and place that exceeds all other metro areas?
yes 5 11.63%
no (can you name area that equals or exceeds it) 38 88.37%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2015, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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Fort Lauderdale, Fort Worth, Anaheim, etc....they're all just as well known. Nothing really that unique there.
They don't have their own sports franchises with exception to Anaheim or separate microclimates. Not to mention Oakland's architect is different from SF.

Those cities would be my runner ups along with Minneapolis/ ST Paul.

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Old 05-12-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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They don't have their own sports franchises with exception to Anaheim or separate microclimates. Not to mention Oakland's architect is much from SF.

Those cities would be my runner ups along with Minneapolis/ ST Paul.
Oakland's climate isn't that different than SF and I doubt many people would even make that distinction. Also doesn't FTL have a NHL team? I don't really think Oakland's indentity is any stronger or more well known than these cities regardless of whatever arbitrary categories you bring up. Either way having a second, well known city in the same metro area isn't unique to the Bay Area at all.
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Old 05-12-2015, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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Oakland's climate isn't that different than SF and I doubt many people would even make that distinction. Also doesn't FTL have a NHL team? I don't really think Oakland's indentity is any stronger or more well known than these cities regardless of whatever arbitrary categories you bring up. Either way having a second, well known city in the same metro area isn't unique to the Bay Area at all.
No worries here we will just agree to disagree.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Buena Park, Orange County, California
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Does the Bay Area have a sense of identity and place that exceeds all other metro areas? IMHO, it does.

let me make myself clear here. In the vast, vast majority of metro areas in the US, the identity is built upon its major city and the areas around it….Metropolitan New York, Chicagoland, the Los Angeles Area, etc.

some metro areas build their identity around two major cities….the Twin Cities, Dallas-Fort Worth (the Metroplex).

but none seem to package an image of a true region that transcends it component parts. There is no "suburban San Francisco" for places that might fit that category….like Marin and the Peninsula, maintain their separate identity. Indeed, Marin and the Peninsula join San Francisco, San Jose/Silicon Valley, Oakland and the East Bay, and Wine Country as being the parts that fit together to make the whole.

I can't think of any metro area people refer to as its entirty, not core and periphery, as the Bay Area.

then again, I will fully admit this is nothing more than perception. So I'll turn this over to others….

am I right about the Bay Area and it being the one with the greatest sense of place and identity of all others?
This, folks, is a prime example of the pronounce Bay Area/NorCal megalomania that us peeps from the southland have become accustomed to seeing within CA, but now being presented to the rest of the nation.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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New York
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Old 05-13-2015, 12:42 AM
 
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Technically San Jose is not a part of San Francisco MSA.

I will just go ahead and answer the question, the answer is yes the Bay Area has the most pronounced metro IMO. Oakland has a very distinct identity from San Francisco and has three major sports franchises to boost. The East Bay as a whole is very different from San Francisco. You have the two anchor cities and many interesting satellite cities that really gives the Bay an edge in identity. If you through San Jose in the mix you have another large city in the equation.
The Bay Area is functionally more like a state. If I drew the borders, I would make it a small densely populated state ala Maryland or New Jersey.
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Old 05-13-2015, 01:01 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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New York
Not even close, NYC is by far the core of the metro area... Newark and White Plains come in a very very distant 2nd and 3rd.
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Old 05-13-2015, 01:06 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Does the Bay Area have a sense of identity and place that exceeds all other metro areas? IMHO, it does.

let me make myself clear here. In the vast, vast majority of metro areas in the US, the identity is built upon its major city and the areas around it….Metropolitan New York, Chicagoland, the Los Angeles Area, etc.

some metro areas build their identity around two major cities….the Twin Cities, Dallas-Fort Worth (the Metroplex).

but none seem to package an image of a true region that transcends it component parts. There is no "suburban San Francisco" for places that might fit that category….like Marin and the Peninsula, maintain their separate identity. Indeed, Marin and the Peninsula join San Francisco, San Jose/Silicon Valley, Oakland and the East Bay, and Wine Country as being the parts that fit together to make the whole.

I can't think of any metro area people refer to as its entirty, not core and periphery, as the Bay Area.

then again, I will fully admit this is nothing more than perception. So I'll turn this over to others….

am I right about the Bay Area and it being the one with the greatest sense of place and identity of all others?
DFW has 3 pretty major cities.

Dallas, Ft. Worth, Arlington
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:35 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I can't think of any metro area people refer to as its entirty, not core and periphery, as the Bay Area.
It is called the San Francisco bay area. The core is definitely San Francisco, perceived and otherwise - across the nation and around the world. Take away San Francisco and hardly anybody would care about that area.

Next question.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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This, folks, is a prime example of the pronounce Bay Area/NorCal megalomania that us peeps from the southland have become accustomed to seeing within CA, but now being presented to the rest of the nation.
The poster is from the Chicago area though?
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