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Old 05-14-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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From the Ap Wire; here are the 10 worst and best states compiled by The National Coalition for the Homeless:

Worst states for homelessness
1. Hawaii
2. Oregon
3. Nevada
4. New York
5. California
6. Washington
7. Massachusetts
8. Florida
9. Alaska
10. Colorado

Best states for homelessness
1. Mississippi
2. Kansas
3. Indiana
4. Iowa
5. Virginia
6. South Dakota
7. Wisconsin
8. Delaware
9. Illinois
10. Alabama
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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What criteria is factored in? I imagine weather would be a major one. If I had to be homeless, I'd rather be homeless in Miami than NYC, where I could potentially freeze to death on winter nights. I always feel so terrible for the homeless in cities around here in the winter. It can get so brutally cold at night. Combine that with snow or freezing rain… terrible.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by caliguy92832 View Post
From the Ap Wire; here are the 10 worst and best states compiled by The National Coalition for the Homeless:

Worst states for homelessness
1. Hawaii
2. Oregon
3. Nevada
4. New York
5. California
6. Washington
7. Massachusetts
8. Florida
9. Alaska
10. Colorado

Best states for homelessness
1. Mississippi
2. Kansas
3. Indiana
4. Iowa
5. Virginia
6. South Dakota
7. Wisconsin
8. Delaware
9. Illinois
10. Alabama
When Mississippi is said to be the best for homelessness, what does that mean? That the state's policies have actually reduced homelessness? Or that help for the homeless is so tiny that the state has driven them all out? Or is it just plain numbers? Fewer homeless equals best and the most means worst? I'm sure weather has a big effect on the numbers in Hawaii.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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A similar list of cities by the NCH lists the following criteria:

: the number of anti-homeless laws in the city, the enforcement of those laws and severities of penalties, the general political climate toward homeless people in the city, local advocate support for the meanest designation, the city’s history of criminalization measures, and the existence of pending or recently enacted criminalization legislation
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: California → Tennessee → Ohio
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When Mississippi is said to be the best for homelessness, what does that mean? That the state's policies have actually reduced homelessness? Or that help for the homeless is so tiny that the state has driven them all out? Or is it just plain numbers? Fewer homeless equals best and the most means worst? I'm sure weather has a big effect on the numbers in Hawaii.

The annual list is based on homeless people per the state's population.

For example...

Total Homeless per 10K population
1. Hawaii 45.24
2. Oregon 40.37
3. Nevada 39.27
4. New York 36.38
5. California 31.61
6. Washington 29.04
7. Massachusetts 27.34
8. Florida 26.80
9. Alaska 26.46
10. Colorado 25.94

Total Homeless per 10K population
1. Mississippi 8.10
2. Kansas 8.80
3. Indiana 9.47
4. Iowa 9.93
5. Virginia 10.02
6. South Dakota 10.52
7. Wisconsin 10.59
8. Delaware 10.63
9. Illinois 10.74
10. Alabama 10.83

Hawaii has the highest homeless rate and Mississippi has the lowest homeless rate.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:32 PM
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What criteria is factored in? I imagine weather would be a major one. If I had to be homeless, I'd rather be homeless in Miami than NYC, where I could potentially freeze to death on winter nights. I always feel so terrible for the homeless in cities around here in the winter. It can get so brutally cold at night. Combine that with snow or freezing rain… terrible.
Agreed. You would think it would be better to be homeless in places like California and Florida.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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These aren't the "best" place to be homeless. Just the states where one sees the fewest of them.

There is a strong correlation in these two lists between the amount of homelessness and the cost of housing. Which makes sense. We see far more people on the streets in high-cost states (or the big cities that dominate them) and far less of it in states where housing costs are low. Even if winter weather sucks in South Dakota or its hellishly hot in summertime Mississippi, it's probably easier to find a shelter or a room to rent somewhere than it is in high-cost New York City or Honolulu.

And FWIW, there is no "best "place to be homeless. Being homeless sucks anywhere.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:09 PM
 
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Doesn't surprise me at all Oregon is #2. For such a supposedly enviable and progressive state, we sure screw over the poor. Anyone who has rented or worked in Oregon will understand what I'm talking about.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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What criteria is factored in? I imagine weather would be a major one. If I had to be homeless, I'd rather be homeless in Miami than NYC, where I could potentially freeze to death on winter nights. I always feel so terrible for the homeless in cities around here in the winter. It can get so brutally cold at night. Combine that with snow or freezing rain… terrible.
You can freeze to death in any state including Hawaii. Hypothermia can kick in at temperatures of as high as 70F.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:19 PM
 
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You can freeze to death in any state including Hawaii. Hypothermia can kick in at temperatures of as high as 70F.
Where are you more likely to freeze? New York in January or the streets of Hawaii ever?
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