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Old 05-15-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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Seattle does need AC, but only for 5-6 days a year, so it is not worth it. Buy a fan and open the windows. The only problem is many restaurants have taken this approach. Don't go out to eat on these days.

Seattle needs heat from November to March. Not much, but enough to raise your indoor temp from 50.

 
Old 05-16-2015, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Seattle-WA-USA
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I will echo Seattle and Portland as well. Dont really need heat or A/C.
 
Old 05-16-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You always need heat, but not necessarily central heating, even in most of the south, but you also need heat to cook, so it's already there for that purpose. But if a house is built properly, you don't need AC anywhere. A hundred years ago, people lived in all cities, without AC nor central hearing. So it was obviously not "needed".
 
Old 05-16-2015, 12:05 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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You can live anywhere without AC technically but the South is far from the "best" place to do it.
Actually, in this country, the Coastal South is among one of the best areas to live without needed A/C and Heat. In fact, to people who are used to humid tropical conditions, a large majority of the population on Earth, it would be THE best area in of the country to live without A/C and Heat. Locations on the West Coast that people often mention in these types of threads often have too cool of temperatures year-round for people from those tropical areas to enjoy.
 
Old 05-16-2015, 12:20 PM
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Actually, in this country, the Coastal South is among one of the best areas to live without needed A/C and Heat. In fact, to people who are used to humid tropical conditions, a large majority of the population on Earth, it would be THE best area in of the country to live without A/C and Heat. Locations on the West Coast that people often mention in these types of threads often have too cool of temperatures year-round for people from those tropical areas to enjoy.
Then why aren't people doing it?
 
Old 05-16-2015, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Then why aren't people doing it?
And why did the influx of northerners, and economic growth, of the South really only take off with the invention of air conditioning? And why are 99% of new homes in the South built with air conditioning, versus only 64% in the west?
 
Old 05-16-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Actually, in this country, the Coastal South is among one of the best areas to live without needed A/C and Heat. In fact, to people who are used to humid tropical conditions, a large majority of the population on Earth, it would be THE best area in of the country to live without A/C and Heat. Locations on the West Coast that people often mention in these types of threads often have too cool of temperatures year-round for people from those tropical areas to enjoy.
A fact, that you keep trying to deny, is all those people are used to it because they don't have a choice and when given the choice they opt for AC to cool their homes and businesses to temperatures found along the coast of CA.

The American South is one of, if not the worst, place to live in the US without air conditioning. Even in the Southwest deserts you can have swamp coolers at least, not in the South though.
 
Old 05-16-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Then why aren't people doing it?
It's cheaper to hook up an AC and then set a living cubicle down on top of it, than to properly design a house to be comfortable in a hot climate. That would mean deviating from the prefabricated double-wides waiting to be towed to your servicedd lot.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:34 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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Then why aren't people doing it?
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And why are 99% of new homes in the South built with air conditioning, versus only 64% in the west?
For what this person said:

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It's cheaper to hook up an AC and then set a living cubicle down on top of it, than to properly design a house to be comfortable in a hot climate. That would mean deviating from the prefabricated double-wides waiting to be towed to your servicedd lot.
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And why did the influx of northerners, and economic growth, of the South really only take off with the invention of air conditioning?
Look at the stock of people America was founded with; mostly from Europe. The European continent does not have a humid subtropical climate region like that found in the South, but it does have humid continental, and oceanic/Med climates (corresponding to the Northeast/Midwest and West Coast in US, respectively). Because of that, the South was the region with the climate most foreign to Europeans, and thus the climate they were least equipped to handle, hence the influx and economic growth in the South before air-conditioning. If the South was mostly populated with people from Asia, or Africa, which have regions of warm, humid climates just like that in the South, then the South would easily have contained huge thriving metropolises long before A/C was invented, since those people are better equipped to handle humid climates.


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A fact, that you keep trying to deny, is all those people are used to it because they don't have a choice and when given the choice they opt for AC to cool their homes and businesses to temperatures found along the coast of CA.
Keep telling yourself that. I guess you don't realize that temps found in coastal California would be much too cool year-round for comfort for those people from tropical climates. The South offers such humid conditions that appeal to those people more readily than the climate of coastal California.

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The American South is one of, if not the worst, place to live in the US without air conditioning. Even in the Southwest deserts you can have swamp coolers at least, not in the South though.
The South may not be able to use swamp coolers, but it does have lots of lush verdant foliage for powerful shade, lots of water abound, loads and loads of thunderstorms that quench and cool the environment, swift sea-breezes(along the coast), and also naturally cooler summer temps by a long shot.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Keep telling yourself that. I guess you don't realize that temps found in coastal California would be much too cool year-round for comfort for those people from tropical climates. The South offers such humid conditions that appeal to those people more readily than the climate of coastal California.
Then why do wealthier nations/areas found in hot and humid climates like Singapore and Hong Kong have such widespread use of AC? Shouldn't they shun AC according to you?

Just because you're stuck living in a hot humid climate doesn't mean you will find areas with more mild climates like coastal CA too cool, just look at all the people that hate how hot and humid the South is.

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The South may not be able to use swamp coolers, but it does have lots of lush verdant foliage for powerful shade, lots of water abound, loads and loads of thunderstorms that quench and cool the environment, swift sea-breezes(along the coast), and also naturally cooler summer temps by a long shot.
That's nice but it's still uncomfortably hot for most people in summer. You're delusional to try to believe otherwise.

And most people in the South don't live directly along the coast. But maybe those inland get those cooling breezes from all the tornadoes in some parts right? lol Such an extreme, violent climate down there.
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