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Old 05-21-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I thought I had see the title before.

Maybe stirring the pot?
Probably.

But to answer the question, I'd say California probably embodies the values of the Millennial generation better than any other state (or maybe Hawaii).

-Technology
-Diversity
-Racially integrated (at least in the Bay Area)
-Interracial marriage
-Professed colorblindness
-Openness and creativity

California was sort of the trailblazer in many of the above categories, imo. These things are admired and emulated among the current generation as opposed to the historical ethoncentrism and stodigness of the Northeast.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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I thought I had see the title before.

Maybe stirring the pot?
Sorry, just forgot I created it before. But honestly if I bumped it, you guys would probably complain too.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Yes and no. I see how the cali lifestyle kind of plays in other states and pop culture you mentioned but only in doses and not as a whole.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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But honestly if I bumped it, you guys would probably complain too.
Complain about what? Disagreeing and complaining are not the same thing.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Let me ask you a question: why are you so obsessed with the West?
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: worldwide
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No the rest of Californian's are becoming more "American" in the sense that everyone is moving out and cannot afford to live there.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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Not sure where you would have picked that up from but...no. The Boston-Washington corridor (which seems to be expanding further south) is the economic-political powerhouse in this country and don't see that changing anywhere in our life time. The "West" has a couple of economic hotspots with the SF Bay area and Seattle but otherwise the other growth hubs are scattered (outside of the major cities in Texas) and not cohesive enough to form any kind of national influence in my opinion.
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I don't see how that addresses the OP's question when he asked whether America was becoming more like California in a sociocultural sense. I don't think he's asking whether California will become economically dominant or whether the state will eventually obtain 105 electoral votes in the House of Representatives.
You don't think there's an overlap in economics, politics and sociology? And to suggest other areas of the country have been influenced by California via the television media is a bit far fetched in my opinion. Law and Order SVU's or Everybody Loves Raymond's (or dozens of other shows) NYC influence has somehow been escapable while Saved By The Bell somehow resonates with the public? That would help explain a lot I suppose...
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:57 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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No the rest of Californian's are becoming more "American" in the sense that everyone is moving out and cannot afford to live there.
That's funny. Here, write to the VA, tell these brave Californians they are not American

California - Locations

Real brave behind a computer, aren't you?
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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You don't think there's an overlap in economics, politics and sociology?
But that's not what the OP is gettin at. Let's take a look at the definition of "sociocultural."

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so·ci·o·cul·tur·al

(sō′sē-ō-kŭl′chər-əl, -shē-)

adj.

Of or involving both social and cultural factors.
I don't think that has anything to do with "economic hotspots" or any of the other stuff you mentioned. California doesn't dominate the country economically, but that's a different issue from whether it dominates in a cultural sense. New England doesn't dominate America in an economic sense but it's clear that many of the country's values derive from a Yankee Protestant ethic.

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And to suggest other areas of the country have been influenced by California via the television media is a bit far fetched in my opinion. Law and Order SVU's or Everybody Loves Raymond's (or dozens of other shows) NYC influence has somehow been escapable while Saved By The Bell somehow resonates with the public? That would help explain a lot I suppose...
I don't think it's farfetched at all. I grew up on the East Coast (African American) and those shows influenced me and others around me. I think California English is considered "normal" because that's what we heard in movies. Most people are trying to copy that accent moreso than a thick New York or Boston accent.
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Old 05-21-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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I don't think it's farfetched at all. I grew up on the East Coast (African American) and those shows influenced me and others around me. I think California English is considered "normal" because that's what we heard in movies. Most people are trying to copy that accent moreso than a thick New York or Boston accent.
Yeah I think California English and Black American English have both hugely influenced Millennial speech, much in the same way Estuary English and Jafaican have influenced the dialects of young British people from all over the UK.
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