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Old 05-21-2015, 01:51 AM
 
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Do you think America is becoming socioculturally more similar to California and the West in general? In the sense of politics, moving around, pop culture, etc. I think in general the "future" is California and the New South (unfortunately) and the "past" is the Northeast and Midwest.
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Old 05-21-2015, 04:49 AM
 
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Not sure where you would have picked that up from but...no. The Boston-Washington corridor (which seems to be expanding further south) is the economic-political powerhouse in this country and don't see that changing anywhere in our life time. The "West" has a couple of economic hotspots with the SF Bay area and Seattle but otherwise the other growth hubs are scattered (outside of the major cities in Texas) and not cohesive enough to form any kind of national influence in my opinion.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:11 AM
 
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Not sure where you would have picked that up from but...no. The Boston-Washington corridor (which seems to be expanding further south) is the economic-political powerhouse in this country and don't see that changing anywhere in our life time. The "West" has a couple of economic hotspots with the SF Bay area and Seattle but otherwise the other growth hubs are scattered (outside of the major cities in Texas) and not cohesive enough to form any kind of national influence in my opinion.
I don't see how that addresses the OP's question when he asked whether America was becoming more like California in a sociocultural sense. I don't think he's asking whether California will become economically dominant or whether the state will eventually obtain 105 electoral votes in the House of Representatives.

I *do* think the country has "Californianized" to a great extent due to its incredible media influence. We have a whole generation raised on Saved by the Bell, California Dreaming and Clueless, and the average Millennial sounds much more like the characters in those shows/movies than they do the stereotypical New Yorker. And I guess you can say that the values of tolerance, post-racialism and diversity that have been exalted by this generation are a bit California-ish.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:15 AM
 
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I don't see how that addresses the OP's question when he asked whether America was becoming more like California in a sociocultural sense. I don't think he's asking whether California will become economically dominant or whether the state will eventually obtain 105 electoral votes in the House of Representatives.

I *do* think the country has "Californianized" to a great extent due to its incredible media influence. We have a whole generation raised on Saved by the Bell, California Dreaming and Clueless, and the average Millennial sounds much more like the characters in those shows/movies than they do the stereotypical New Yorker. And I guess you can say that the values of tolerance, post-racialism and diversity that have been exalted by this generation are a bit California-ish.
Hell I'd even argue that California-style income inequality is spreading to other states, particularly other Western states like Oregon and Arizona.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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Hell I'd even argue that California-style income inequality is spreading to other states, particularly other Western states like Oregon and Arizona.
I guess. One way to maintain income equality is to remain relatively homogeneous.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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I guess. One way to maintain income equality is to remain relatively homogeneous.
Are you implying that racial inequality in particular in inevitable or even good? I can't see how a California level of inequality - that is, no real middle class at all - is a good direction for America to go into.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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Are you implying that racial inequality in particular in inevitable or even good? I can't see how a California level of inequality - that is, no real middle class at all - is a good direction for America to go into.
That's not what I meant. I'm not big on "implying" anyway. I'd like to think I'm rather direct. I meant that income equality can be better achieved by not having racial minorities.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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No.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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The OP asked this exact question a few months ago.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/gener...-becoming.html

Why not bump that thread instead of creating a new one asking the same thing?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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The OP asked this exact question a few months ago.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/gener...-becoming.html

Why not bump that thread instead of creating a new one asking the same thing?
I thought I had see the title before.

Maybe stirring the pot?
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