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Old 06-25-2019, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Compton is suburban though.
Precisely and not what comes to mind when your thinking of a neighborhood in Mississippi.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Compton is suburban though.
I can tell you've never been to Compton, Mr. Brooklyn lol. One of the biggest flaws on this board is this idea that urbanity everywhere has to look like East Coast urbanity, even though there are urban places the world over that don't look or function the way East Coast big cities do...

Compton is built in suburban garden style because it originated as an inner suburb of Los Angeles. Functionally, most of Compton functions as an inner-city Los Angeles neighborhood, it's not suburban in that regard. Carson is suburban, Pasadena is suburban. Compton will always technically be an LA suburb, but it's only 10 square miles with nearly 10,000 people per square mile. That's less built up than many areas in core LA, but functionally, Compton is inner city Los Angeles and doesn't really act as a suburb outside of its layout/build...
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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I can tell you've never been to Compton, Mr. Brooklyn lol. One of the biggest flaws on this board is this idea that urbanity everywhere has to look like East Coast urbanity, even though there are urban places the world over that don't look or function the way East Coast big cities do...

Compton is built in suburban garden style because it originated as an inner suburb of Los Angeles. Functionally, most of Compton functions as an inner-city Los Angeles neighborhood, it's not suburban in that regard. Carson is suburban, Pasadena is suburban. Compton will always technically be an LA suburb, but it's only 10 square miles with nearly 10,000 people per square mile. That's less built up than many areas in core LA, but functionally, Compton is inner city Los Angeles and doesn't really act as a suburb outside of its layout/build...
10k ppsm is suburban. That's only slightly more than Levittown, NY, ground zero of American suburbia. Compton is made up mostly of detached 1 family houses with driveways.

People mistakenly use the term "urban" to mean black.
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Old 06-25-2019, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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10k ppsm is suburban. That's only slightly more than Levittown, NY, ground zero of American suburbia. Compton is made up mostly of detached 1 family houses with driveways.

People mistakenly use the term "urban" to mean black.
All of the frequent contributors to this thread, besides yourself, are black, so I can assure you they aren't conflating "urban" and "black". Your point applies, generally speaking, though...

Again though, your barometer of suburbanism is East Coast centric, hence, your Levittown example. I've actually been to Compton, functionally speaking (which obviously goes beyond population density), Compton is an inner city Los Angeles neighborhood...
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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All of the frequent contributors to this thread, besides yourself, are black, so I can assure you they aren't conflating "urban" and "black". Your point applies, generally speaking, though...

Again though, your barometer of suburbanism is East Coast centric, hence, your Levittown example. I've actually been to Compton, functionally speaking (which obviously goes beyond population density), Compton is an inner city Los Angeles neighborhood...
Black people outside of city data do that all the time! "Suburban" is code for white, and "urban" is code for black.

"Inner city" is also a code for black. I don't think people would refer to Compton as "inner city" if it were wealthier and predominately white. Like how white people from Manhattan aren't considered "inner city" even though they live in the most urban area in the whole country.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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10k ppsm is suburban. That's only slightly more than Levittown, NY, ground zero of American suburbia. Compton is made up mostly of detached 1 family houses with driveways.

People mistakenly use the term "urban" to mean black.
10K ppsm is suburban ? Perhaps in the Northeast but not throughout the rest of the regions.

People/News been attaching subliminal themes to Blacks for....decades. Nothing new *shrugs*.

Point I'm making is the urban/rural distribution of the Sipp's Black community.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:34 PM
 
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10K ppsm is suburban ? Perhaps in the Northeast but not throughout the rest of the regions.

People/News been attaching subliminal themes to Blacks for....decades. Nothing new *shrugs*.

Point I'm making is the urban/rural distribution of the Sipp's Black community.
In my opinion, yes. Compton looks like a suburban neighborhood to me too. If it were populated by white people, it would be considered the suburbs.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I would say below 4 or 5k ppsm is ground zero quintessential suburbia. I've noticed that a lot of suburbs in my metro that fall below that threshold are built like a maze, streets that are virtually rid of the city-grid and cul-de-sacs are more common.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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In my opinion, yes. Compton looks like a suburban neighborhood to me too. If it were populated by white people, it would be considered the suburbs.
It's a Suburb regardless of ethnic composition.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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I would say below 4 or 5k ppsm is ground zero quintessential suburbia. I've noticed that a lot of suburbs in my metro that fall below that threshold are built like a maze, streets that are virtually rid of the city-grid and cul-de-sacs are more common.
Majority of micropolitan cities would be considered suburban by your threshold.
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