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For 3, I’m not sure if it was mentioned in the thread, but it is more into HBCU’s than people may think and even includes a couple of them. This is including the first HBCU.
Also, has more highly to predominantly Black middle class suburban and even city neighborhoods than some may realize.
Yes....THIS IS 100% ACCURATE....I felt this when I lived in Chicago but I really became fully aware of it when I lived and worked in Chicago suburbs.....Midwestern whites are unlike any other whites I have met. I've lived in different regions and dealt with all kinds of whites and Europeans from all over the world so I've noticed personality traits over the years...Midwestern Whites are the most racist and ridiculously fearful of blacks....which is problematic......problematic because black people sense this fear in them and distance themselves. It's quite strange and bizarre. I never felt hostility from blacks in the midwest but I felt that they kept to themselves since the masses were fearful of them....and the racism here is kind of like this..."I'm going to pretend to be nice to you because deep down I'm scared of you and I don't know what you might do"...You constantly feel like ppl don't trust you. You constantly feel like you're being tracked from the corner of ppls eyes....that is the impression I got living in the midwest....Even through the niceness and fake smiles, you could smell the fear and subtle tension in the air....I never felt or sensed anything like this in any other region except for the midwest....Initially, I found it to be hilarious but after a while it became painful to experience and observe on a consistent basis. Midwestern whites cover up their prejudice thoughts about blacks with fake smiles and exaggerated friendliness but any smart person can see them for what they truly are.....extremely prejudiced....It's a completely different vibe.....a sick twisted vibe.....I also saw blacks getting fired for the simplest of issues at work....small insignificant issues that others got away with....this happened quite often. I also noticed that the latino and black communities in the midwest had zero unity. Which was very surprising to me because latinos and blacks in the north east have an alliance....this alliance was nonexistent in the midwest. The same fear/prejudice whites had for blacks in the midwest is the same vibe the latinos gave off......
I know this is an old thread but I saw the 2 comments that were made and I had to chime in....what you 2 are saying is 100% factual.
Just wondering, if this was written about a race other than White, would this be considered racist, and be deleted?
Just an FYI, Texas has the fourth biggest black population of any state but NY. AAs make up about 15% of the State because its the most diverse state in the SunBelt due to a large latino (read Mexican) population but many middle easterners due to the energy sector are here and many from Indian and China relocated due to tech jobs. As far as black folks not doing well outside of Houston or Dallas/Fort Worth well hell those TWO metro areas combined have bigger populations than ANY states in the South but Florida and if they were a state (over 13 million residents) would rank FOURTH largest in the U.S. Georgia and North Carolina have about 11 million residents each.
So tell me what makes you think black folk in rural areas of Georgia, the Carolinas or Florida do any better than those in Texas?
Just an FYI, Texas has the fourth biggest black population of any state but NY. AAs make up about 15% of the State because its the most diverse state in the SunBelt due to a large latino (read Mexican) population but many middle easterners due to the energy sector are here and many from Indian and China relocated due to tech jobs. As far as black folks not doing well outside of Houston or Dallas/Fort Worth well hell those TWO metro areas combined have bigger populations than ANY states in the South but Florida and if they were a state (over 13 million residents) would rank FOURTH largest in the U.S. Georgia and North Carolina have about 11 million residents each.
So tell me what makes you think black folk in rural areas of Georgia, the Carolinas or Florida do any better than those in Texas?
Texas actually has the largest black population in the United States.
Even then, NY State has a higher percentage than TX and people may not realize that NY is the Blackest state outside of the South. It’s percentage is essentially on par with states such as FL, TN and AR, while not not being too much lower than that of VA and NC. This means that it is around 10th/11th in Black percentage in terms of state rankings.
What is interesting is that NYC isn’t even the state’s city with the highest percentage. Cities such as Rochester, Buffalo, Albany, Syracuse and Poughkeepsie have higher percentages. This doesn’t even get into a city like Mount Vernon, which may be the Blackest truly urban municipality in the country today or other NYC suburbs like Hempstead, Uniondale, Baldwin, Elmont, North Valley Stream, Wheatley Heights, Roosevelt, North Amityville, Westbury, Wyandanch, Hillcrest, Spring Valley, etc. that are predominantly or pluralistically more Black.
Then you have other cities like Middletown, Newburgh, Schenectady, Niagara Falls, New Rochelle, Beacon, Hudson, etc. that are around 20-25% Black, give or take. Some others are around the national percentage to 20% like Troy, Utica, Binghamton, Elmira, Kingston, Yonkers, White Plains, Nyack/South Nyack, Peekskill, etc.
So, I say all of this to say that it is more than just NYC(proper), as if you take it out, the state’s percentage would still around the national percentage.
I think it will be made official when they update it though for 2018. Because on Black demographics, that list was updated as of 2016 and considering that Texas black population is growing much faster, it’s just a matter of time on there that Texas (and Florida) passes New York. Also, yeah, I think the black population makes up 12% of the Texas population. That’s mostly because of its very large Hispanic population which brings that percentage down.
I do agree with you that most people don’t think New York outside of NYC does not have a large black population. I knew that it did. But most don’t.
I think it will be made official when they update it though for 2018. Because on Black demographics, that list was updated as of 2016 and considering that Texas black population is growing much faster, it’s just a matter of time on there that Texas (and Florida) passes New York. Also, yeah, I think the black population makes up 12% of the Texas population. That’s mostly because of its very large Hispanic population which brings that percentage down.
I do agree with you that most people don’t think New York outside of NYC does not have a large black population. I knew that it did. But most don’t.
Good points...
I will also say about NY is that it also has a pretty high Hispanic percentage(about 19%) and what is different is that many come from countries/have roots in countries that are of the diaspora. Meaning, many are black(alone or in combination) and in turn, the Black including in combination percentage may actually be even higher than what it is. I say that because some may strictly identify as “Hispanic/Latino” and/or “Other”. So, those could be some aspects to consider in terms of NY as well.
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