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View Poll Results: Which major city has the worst overall weather in the U.S.
Seattle 31 8.47%
San Francisco 9 2.46%
San Diego 7 1.91%
Minneapolis 101 27.60%
Oklahoma City 50 13.66%
Houston 72 19.67%
Phoenix 54 14.75%
Other major city in the continuous U.S. 42 11.48%
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:09 PM
 
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Can you prove that? Or are you just saying that because people live there? That doesn't mean they go crazy for it or even like it.
Chicago has awful weather most of the year, yet has 10 million people.

The fact that American's love California's weather is likely because 80% of them or so live in humid climates. If humidity was actually better, you wouldn't hear Americans pumping up California's weather.

People put up with humidity because they have to. I've RARELY come across anyone who enjoys that weather.
It's well known that people in those countries prefer humid climates. Outside of America (especially), the Med climate is seen as just another choice of great climate, nothing extraordinarily desirable. No one pumps Perth over Brisbane in Australia, Capetown over Durban in South Africa, or Santiago over Buenos Aires in South America, just because the former in each case all have Med climates.

Asian and African immigrants, especially, chose climates that are humid out of preference; such climates remind them of where they came from, and they thus feel comfort based on that. This is why many cities in the South, such as Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta, continue to having booming African and Asian immigrant populations.
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Old 02-20-2016, 12:41 AM
 
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Are you serious? Do you really want to compare the Asian immigrants between California and any other state?

Weather isn't the only reason why Asians love California just like it's not the only reason why immmigrants move to Miami from Latin America. They probably moved to Dallas and Atlanta because they have strong economies.

You're just saying that for your arguement. Africans and Asians are in humid cities there because that's where the cities are. They live in those places out of necessity, not preference. Just like anywhere else.

There's only a few places in the world that have California's climate. Obviously there will be more people living in humid climates.

It doesn't make it preferable at all.

Like I said, if humid was better, people in this country wouldn't care about California's weather.
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Old 02-20-2016, 02:38 AM
 
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Are you serious? Do you really want to compare the Asian immigrants between California and any other state?

Weather isn't the only reason why Asians love California just like it's not the only reason why immmigrants move to Miami from Latin America. They probably moved to Dallas and Atlanta because they have strong economies.

You're just saying that for your arguement. Africans and Asians are in humid cities there because that's where the cities are. They live in those places out of necessity, not preference. Just like anywhere else.

There's only a few places in the world that have California's climate. Obviously there will be more people living in humid climates.

It doesn't make it preferable at all.

Like I said, if humid was better, people in this country wouldn't care about California's weather.
California's Asian population will be high for the same reason that the Northeastern US has the densest, most populated cities in the country; California and the other West Coast states are closest to the East Asian countries in the CONUS, and, thus, would have experienced historic inflow and settlement when the first waves of immigrants from those countries came to the US.

The Asian boom in the South is more special because that region, logistically, is quite removed from East Asia, in terms of travel without airplane. Even with such handicap, however, southern cities still have booming Asian populations; Dallas and Atlanta have particularly high Korean populations, while Houston has high Vietnamese and Chinese populations. It is obvious that, along with the other more important reasons for moving to said cities, that climate is very special in their considerations; the climate of the Southeastern US reminds the Asians of their homelands, and all the benefits it brought to them. Such a connection between Asia and the Southeastern US only grew stronger once Asian immigrants realized that they could cultivate their native crops/plants (rice, tea, satsuma oranges, azaleas, etc) quite well in the South, due to the beneficial humid subtropical climate.

If the Med climate was really that desirable, then, with respect to the small land area such climates cover relatively, then ALL the Med climates of the world should be densely populated, and having high real-estate prices. However, this isn't the case; Western Australia, with the Med climates, is less populated than New South Wales, which has humid climates, and real estate prices are similar. You don't hear how expensive and desirable Chile is to Argentina, just because the former has Med climates; same goes for Capetown vs Durban in South Africa.

So, once again, this preference for the Med climate is largely an American phenomenon, and it has large influences from the other draws to California present for the state's history. However, it seems that more and more Americans are realizing the huge, untapped benefits that lies in the climate of the Southeast, and are thus doing all it takes to reap the benefits of the climate. Humid subtropical climates feed more people than any other climate type.
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Old 02-20-2016, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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People rarely move to a place because of the weather. Otherwise the population of Minneapolis and Buffalo would have been 234 people each.

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Old 02-20-2016, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Center City
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People rarely move to a place because of the weather.
Actually, one of our top reasons to move to Philly was to get away from Houston's weather.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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People rarely move to a place because of the weather. Otherwise the population of Minneapolis and Buffalo would have been 234 people each.
Rarely??? Weather is one of the major factors when people move. Yes there are other factors, but using Cali as an example with the huge COL, i would say the majority of people move there just because of the weather. Living in Phoenix, just about every one of the hoards of mid-westerners who live here say weather is the main reason they left and relocated here.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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While I am not a fan a humidity I would still take the hot humid summers of Houston way over any northern state, and I feel like most people would agree. Just look at the stats... In 1940 the 3 most populous states were cold weather states. Now the 3 most populous states are warm weather states.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Rarely??? Weather is one of the major factors when people move. Yes there are other factors, but using Cali as an example with the huge COL, i would say the majority of people move there just because of the weather. Living in Phoenix, just about every one of the hoards of mid-westerners who live here say weather is the main reason they left and relocated here.
well that, and what is probably the world's best location for great deals on barely used golf carts
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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California's Asian population will be high for the same reason that the Northeastern US has the densest, most populated cities in the country; California and the other West Coast states are closest to the East Asian countries in the CONUS, and, thus, would have experienced historic inflow and settlement when the first waves of immigrants from those countries came to the US.

The Asian boom in the South is more special because that region, logistically, is quite removed from East Asia, in terms of travel without airplane. Even with such handicap, however, southern cities still have booming Asian populations; Dallas and Atlanta have particularly high Korean populations, while Houston has high Vietnamese and Chinese populations. It is obvious that, along with the other more important reasons for moving to said cities, that climate is very special in their considerations; the climate of the Southeastern US reminds the Asians of their homelands, and all the benefits it brought to them. Such a connection between Asia and the Southeastern US only grew stronger once Asian immigrants realized that they could cultivate their native crops/plants (rice, tea, satsuma oranges, azaleas, etc) quite well in the South, due to the beneficial humid subtropical climate.

If the Med climate was really that desirable, then, with respect to the small land area such climates cover relatively, then ALL the Med climates of the world should be densely populated, and having high real-estate prices. However, this isn't the case; Western Australia, with the Med climates, is less populated than New South Wales, which has humid climates, and real estate prices are similar. You don't hear how expensive and desirable Chile is to Argentina, just because the former has Med climates; same goes for Capetown vs Durban in South Africa.

So, once again, this preference for the Med climate is largely an American phenomenon, and it has large influences from the other draws to California present for the state's history. However, it seems that more and more Americans are realizing the huge, untapped benefits that lies in the climate of the Southeast, and are thus doing all it takes to reap the benefits of the climate. Humid subtropical climates feed more people than any other climate type.
People are moving to the south because it's cheaper. Coastal California is the most expensive area of the United states. Look at the median home value of sf, SD and la. Only Manhattan and Honolulu compete with it. Outside of NYC. It Is the most desirable location in the u.s. easily.

People can't afford California. If it had the same of the col of the South it would have have another 30:million, at least.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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And the metro areas of sf and la are two of the most packed areas in the u.s. I believe it's #1 and #3. You're forgetting much of coastal California is inhabitable because of mountains.

The Asian population on the south is only more special to you. I was just in Las Koreatown and it's just amazing for what it is. There's nothing in the south like that, or will ever be..

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