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Old 05-29-2015, 07:39 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I spent half of my formative years in Los Angeles, the other half in Detroit (Grosse Pointe). I know what I'm talking about, Wisconsin registers very little on my radar though, and Iowa even less.

Who cares how I say highway names? Or the fact I say soda instead of pop
I don't actually care, it just shows a lack of connection with Midwestern culture.... Whether you partially grew up there or not. You are certainly welcome to call the roads whatever you want.
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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I spent half of my formative years in Los Angeles, the other half in Detroit (Grosse Pointe). I know what I'm talking about, Wisconsin registers very little on my radar though, and Iowa even less.

Who cares how I say highway names? Or the fact I say soda instead of pop
I've said it once but I'll say it again, your <1 year of experience in various Midwestern cities does not trump the cumulative hundreds and thousands of years of experience that those of us who STILL LIVE HERE have. So no.....nobody calls I-80 "the 80", generally speaking. That is to say, none of us have heard that term widely used.
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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You're safe. Upper midwest is de rigueur here. So much so that you get about a post a day claiming that it is the only one, true midwest, and that the lower midwest is really southern and the great plains are just the ugly part of the west.

In reality no one outside of these 12 states cares, differentiates or would ever really think about it.
I live in one of those states, and I don't care. Just because some posters on this forum think about it, doesn't mean this is a topic of discussion in the midwest. Good grief. (For the record, I don't care what it's called where you live, either).
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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I live in one of those states, and I don't care. Just because some posters on this forum think about it, doesn't mean this is a topic of discussion in the midwest. Good grief. (For the record, I don't care what it's called where you live, either).
He called the plains ugly

Looks like ill need to post pictures again
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Old 05-31-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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He called the plains ugly

Looks like ill need to post pictures again
Re-read for comprehension.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Maybe, but would you really put Detroit in the "Lower Midwest?"

That would be the border IMO. Upper Midwest culture, ethnic backgrounds and accents begin north of Detroit and Chicago.
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Old 06-01-2015, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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That would be the border IMO. Upper Midwest culture, ethnic backgrounds and accents begin north of Detroit and Chicago.
What you're calling "Upper Midwest" is is basically what most people would refer to as the "North Woods" region. IMHO it's too small to consider a geographic sub-region of the U.S. - there's not a single major city within its confines.

Similarly, the things you seem to associate with the Lower Midwest are mostly Rust Belt in character. The Rust Belt is more of a social/economic thing than anything - certainly not a geographic region. More of it is in the Midwest than anywhere else, but there's a lot of rust belt cities in the Northeast, and arguably some in the South and West as well.
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Old 06-01-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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What you're calling "Upper Midwest" is is basically what most people would refer to as the "North Woods" region. IMHO it's too small to consider a geographic sub-region of the U.S. - there's not a single major city within its confines.

Similarly, the things you seem to associate with the Lower Midwest are mostly Rust Belt in character. The Rust Belt is more of a social/economic thing than anything - certainly not a geographic region. More of it is in the Midwest than anywhere else, but there's a lot of rust belt cities in the Northeast, and arguably some in the South and West as well.
Absolutely - again, the northwoods of MN/WI/MI are governed by Twin Cities/Milwaukee-Madison/Detroit-Lansing downstate, even though those cities are not within the Canadian Shield. And people in Chicago very much relate/love the northwoods (and vacation there).

If you're going to break out the northwoods, why not the Driftless? Actually makes more sense politically, sociologically, ethnically, economically, you name it, and it's just as distinct a geographic region. The reason is that these are subregions of subregions.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Generally I would say for sure Minnesota, Wisconsin, the UP and the eastern Dakotas. To a lesser extent northern Iowa, northern Illinois and lower Michigan. Highly debatable is northern Indiana and northern Ohio especially Cleveland.

Also.. what about Nebraska or at least northeast Nebraska? Never been there but it's surprisingly close in latitude to Minnesota so there should be some similarities.
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Old 01-27-2018, 11:14 PM
 
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I would say that Iowa Highway 92 is a good dividing line. South of there is where that Lower Midwest feeling REALLY kicks in!
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