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Old 05-28-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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I'm curious as to where most people would draw the line between the lower Midwest and the upper Midwest. I think the line would go through southern Michigan around Saginaw Bay over into southern Wisconsin, what do you think?
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Interstate I-80....arguably I-70, but cities on I-70 would be "lower".
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Miami Beach, FL/Tokyo, Japan
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Interstate I-80....arguably I-70, but cities on I-70 would be "lower".
I think the 70 is too south, from her borders you only have several hours to Kentucky in Ohio, or even Tennessee when you're in Illinois. the 80 is better.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Yeah, 80 works pretty well. Separates the Great Lakes cities (Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland) out, as well, which is the right way to do it. Anything downstate in OH/IN/IL has a bit of a different vibe.

I personally think of the Upper Midwest as MN/WI/MI, but whatever. Throw in the Dakotas too, if you want, but they seem like Plains States to me.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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I think southern Michigan has more in common with North and central Ohio than northern Michigan.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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I'd probably go with I-80 as well, but if you want to say I-90 I won't argue there either. The Upper Midwestern dialect doesn't dip much further south than I-90, and is roughly where the Humid Continental climate divides into Hot and Mild summers. Cities like Omaha, Des Moines, and Chicago exhibit qualities of both the Upper and Lower Midwest, thus can't neatly be associated with either classification.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I think southern Michigan has more in common with North and central Ohio than northern Michigan.
Maybe, but would you really put Detroit in the "Lower Midwest?"
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Maybe, but would you really put Detroit in the "Lower Midwest?"
Absolutely, it's much closer to Ohio than Minnesota, and is south of the halfway point between North and south Midwest, and is only a four hour drive to Kentucky. Plus, the vegetation is broad leaf deciduous, not coniferous or mixed like up north.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Sorry, but Michigan is definitely part of the Upper Midwest, even though Detroit (like the Milwaukee/Chicago corridor) is part of a bit of a transistion zone.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Yes, the upper three quarters of Michigan would be upper Midwest, but extreme lower Michigan is more lower Midwest. Nothing about extreme southern Michigan is like the North, heavy industry and deciduous forests and farmland in southern Michigan is the same as Ohio and Indiana. Milwaukee would be the same as Detroit in that regard.
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