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View Poll Results: best governed state
California 3 3.23%
New York 0 0%
New Mexico 1 1.08%
Arizona 0 0%
West Virginia 0 0%
Virginia 5 5.38%
Texas 7 7.53%
Oregon 3 3.23%
Washington 5 5.38%
Utah 7 7.53%
New Hampshire 1 1.08%
Vermont 5 5.38%
Idaho 1 1.08%
Wyoming 2 2.15%
North Carolina 0 0%
South Carolina 2 2.15%
Florida 1 1.08%
Maine 0 0%
Rhode Island 0 0%
Arkansas 0 0%
Georgia 1 1.08%
Alaska 0 0%
Hawaii 1 1.08%
Wisconsin 2 2.15%
Minnesota 15 16.13%
Ohio 2 2.15%
Alabama 1 1.08%
Missouri 0 0%
Mississippi 1 1.08%
Kentucky 1 1.08%
Colorado 3 3.23%
Tennessee 4 4.30%
Pennsylvania 0 0%
New Jersey 0 0%
Delaware 0 0%
Massachusetts 2 2.15%
Kansas 0 0%
Nebraska 2 2.15%
Connecticut 0 0%
Michigan 2 2.15%
North Dakota 3 3.23%
South Dakota 1 1.08%
Nevada 1 1.08%
Oklahoma 0 0%
Louisiana 0 0%
Illinois 0 0%
Indiana 3 3.23%
Iowa 3 3.23%
Maryland 0 0%
Montana 2 2.15%
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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A low incarceration rate just means they let criminals go free.

Several years ago, Minnesota had a budget crisis. They closed their state campgrounds for the summer (genius, right?), amongst other budget cuts.
that's not even remotely accurate, try again
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:29 AM
 
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I voted MN because they've got among the best healthcare and educational systems in the country. Not to mention longest average lifespan (right behind Hawaii). It's definitely not Florida, where I am.
I agree, and it appears Governor Scott already voted here. I mean who else would???
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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that's not even remotely accurate, try again

Yes it is. I think Pawlenty was governor. I was planning a camping trip to Minnesota, but had to reschedule to Michigan due to the Minnesota campground closures.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yes it is. I think Pawlenty was governor. I was planning a camping trip to Minnesota, but had to reschedule to Michigan due to the Minnesota campground closures.
They were definitely closed, but I think it was only for a few weeks?
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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So then it should be among the states with the highest crime right?

Not necessarily. Incarceration implies trial and conviction. High crime rate suggests lack of arrests, let alone conviction.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I picked Oregon for its progressive state legislation such as vote by mail, physician assisted suicide, urban growth boundaries and state investment in bike and ped facilities. Also the state has pretty good universities and lacks major scandals.

My next choice would be Minnesota as others have stated.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Not necessarily. Incarceration implies trial and conviction. High crime rate suggests lack of arrests, let alone conviction.
Huh? There are lots of high crime areas with lots of arrests and convictions as well. Furthermore, a place with a reputation of not locking criminals up would probably result in higher crime rates as it could embolden criminals.

The fact of the matter is that to assume that Minnesota lets criminals wander the streets because of its low incarceration rate misses the mark. Policies having to do with criminal justice practices, correctional control, drug enforcement, etc. as well as the presence of private prisons would be more relevant reasons.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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Option for none?
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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Minnesota and Vermont. These really are the two best governed states right now.
I think it has something to do with the winters in both states.
Smaller population. Easier to manage. Just a theory as I have no idea how the residents of Wyoming or Montana or any other small state feel.
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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They were definitely closed, but I think it was only for a few weeks?
Re MN:

In 2011, when Pawlenty was governor, the entire state government of MN shut down for 20 days. Us state employees did not get paid during that time, and some of us were not supposed to go to work and in fact were punished for going to work. This was due to Pawlenty (a Republican) having a standoff with a primarily DFL legislature. Our state is having the same issues again this year, with a DFL governor having a standoff with the Republicans in the legislature.

So, although MN is a great place to live, I don't really think you can call our state government the tipty toptest in the country.

MN has a diversified economy, is neither under nor over populated, and has an infrastructure which isn't ancient. Those reasons are probably why our state functions well.

I do love that we have a "Democrat Farm Labor" party instead of a "Democrat" party, though.

And ummm - I have to take exception to the post about most successful states having a strong early "Yankee" history. In MN and the Dakotas, and WA too, Scandinavian settlement occurred at the same time as Yankee settlement. Maybe we should have a real discussion about the benefits to current state governments of a tradition of Scandinavian socialism
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