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View Poll Results: best governed state
California 3 3.23%
New York 0 0%
New Mexico 1 1.08%
Arizona 0 0%
West Virginia 0 0%
Virginia 5 5.38%
Texas 7 7.53%
Oregon 3 3.23%
Washington 5 5.38%
Utah 7 7.53%
New Hampshire 1 1.08%
Vermont 5 5.38%
Idaho 1 1.08%
Wyoming 2 2.15%
North Carolina 0 0%
South Carolina 2 2.15%
Florida 1 1.08%
Maine 0 0%
Rhode Island 0 0%
Arkansas 0 0%
Georgia 1 1.08%
Alaska 0 0%
Hawaii 1 1.08%
Wisconsin 2 2.15%
Minnesota 15 16.13%
Ohio 2 2.15%
Alabama 1 1.08%
Missouri 0 0%
Mississippi 1 1.08%
Kentucky 1 1.08%
Colorado 3 3.23%
Tennessee 4 4.30%
Pennsylvania 0 0%
New Jersey 0 0%
Delaware 0 0%
Massachusetts 2 2.15%
Kansas 0 0%
Nebraska 2 2.15%
Connecticut 0 0%
Michigan 2 2.15%
North Dakota 3 3.23%
South Dakota 1 1.08%
Nevada 1 1.08%
Oklahoma 0 0%
Louisiana 0 0%
Illinois 0 0%
Indiana 3 3.23%
Iowa 3 3.23%
Maryland 0 0%
Montana 2 2.15%
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:31 AM
 
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Minnesota and Vermont. These really are the two best governed states right now.
I think it has something to do with the winters in both states.
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Smaller population. Easier to manage. Just a theory as I have no idea how the residents of Wyoming or Montana or any other small state feel.
I am glad you mentioned smaller population. I do not know about other people here but when I was thinking of better run states, I tended to think of the smaller states myself.

But is that really fair? After all, the smaller states like Vermont or Iowa do not have so many of the problems of the more populated states.

Of the larger more populated states, although I do not personally agree for environmental reasons, I can see people making a good argument for Texas for business and tax reasons.

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Old 06-10-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Re MN:

In 2011, when Pawlenty was governor, the entire state government of MN shut down for 20 days. Us state employees did not get paid during that time, and some of us were not supposed to go to work and in fact were punished for going to work. This was due to Pawlenty (a Republican) having a standoff with a primarily DFL legislature. Our state is having the same issues again this year, with a DFL governor having a standoff with the Republicans in the legislature.

So, although MN is a great place to live, I don't really think you can call our state government the tipty toptest in the country.

MN has a diversified economy, is neither under nor over populated, and has an infrastructure which isn't ancient. Those reasons are probably why our state functions well.

I do love that we have a "Democrat Farm Labor" party instead of a "Democrat" party, though.

And ummm - I have to take exception to the post about most successful states having a strong early "Yankee" history. In MN and the Dakotas, and WA too, Scandinavian settlement occurred at the same time as Yankee settlement. Maybe we should have a real discussion about the benefits to current state governments of a tradition of Scandinavian socialism
Agreed. And MN also elects the handful of homegrown c-grade stars (like Jesse "The Body" Ventura and Al Franken) to high office and sports some real crazies outside the core of the Twin Cities (Michele Bachmann). Currently, though, it clearly has good leadership, which can be basically proven conclusively by pitting MN's performance vs sister state WI's under our current Dunce in Chief - absolutely striking.

So right now this minute? Pretty damn good, right near the top. Overall? I wouldn't rank it anywhere near #1. It's also a giant state where well over half the citizens live in a very small area (Twin Cities) that also includes the capital. It's much harder to govern a state with a more diversified population, competing large cities, a capital and largest city in different regions, and so on.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Michigan had some of its most poorly governed and darkest years from 2003-2011, but our current governor is doing a fantastic job. Something is finally being done about Detroit which is experiencing new life, growth and hope for the first time in decades, a new bridge from Detroit to Canada is about to be built that will increase trade between the two countries, and job creation has exploded as compared to the previous administration, especially since Governor Snyder had the courage to break the union stranglehold on this state and make it a right to work state. In spite of what the doomsayers said about that, Detroit currently ranks second in the nation in job growth of jobs that pay a living wage, as in, a wage with which you can actually maintain a decent quality of life. That is huge. it is not fast food jobs that are being created here:

Since 2010, 28 metros have seen at least half its new jobs created... -- CHICAGO, May 28, 2015 /PRNewswire/ --

Governor Snyder is not a political hack and was formerly a very successful businessman who campaigned as "One tough nerd". He is a Republican, being a fiscal and social conservative (and won decisively twice, BTW), but he's not really beholden to a political party so much as he feels an obligation to help his home state, which he has immensely.

I vote Michigan.

The recent Michigan "road repair" bill which went down to defeat by the voters reeked of Chicago pork barrel politics.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Virginia's finances were analyzed by the Volcker Alliance and praised for not being total trash, like most states.

Volcker Alliance state budget initiative - Business Insider
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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Agreed. And MN also elects the handful of homegrown c-grade stars (like Jesse "The Body" Ventura and Al Franken) to high office and sports some real crazies outside the core of the Twin Cities (Michele Bachmann). Currently, though, it clearly has good leadership, which can be basically proven conclusively by pitting MN's performance vs sister state WI's under our current Dunce in Chief - absolutely striking.
I think the MN/WI comparison is overplayed, there are significant economic differences between the two states beyond all the recent political stuff.

I'd say IA or UT for best-governed.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I think the MN/WI comparison is overplayed, there are significant economic differences between the two states beyond all the recent political stuff.

I'd say IA or UT for best-governed.
Not really, bub. Historically, the two states have always been considered sister states, from politics to in-state tuition for colleges and so on. There are differences, like with any states, but the really striking divergence has come recently.

Then again, I don't really trust the "wisdom" of Scott Walker supporters.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"How well run is your state? Assessing a state’s management quality is hardly easy. The current economic climate and standard of living in any given state are not only the results of policy choices and developments that occurred in the last few years, but can also be affected by decisions made decades ago, and by forces outside a state’s control. Each year, 24/7 Wall St. attempts to answer this question by surveying various aspects of each state. To determine how well states are managed, we examine key financial ratios, as well as social and economic outcomes. This year, North Dakota is the best-run state in the country for the third consecutive year, while Illinois replaced California as the worst-run state.

The Best and Worst Run States in America: A Survey of All 50 - 24/7 Wall St.

Top Five Best Run States:

North Dakota (best)
Wyoming
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota

Bottom Five

Illinois (worst)
New Mexico
Mississippi
Rhode Island
Kentucky

"There were a few states that made remarkable improvements, however. California, Colorado, Florida, and Hawaii all moved up by at least 10 positions on our ranking. Improvements in important factors, such as GDP growth and home value increases, contributed to improved rankings in a number of these states.
Some of the changes in rankings can be attributed to states’ GDP per capita levels and labor force growth, both of which were incorporated in our analysis for the first time this year."

To see the review for each state hit the link. This is done annually.

"To determine how well each state is run, 24/7 Wall St. examined data from numerous sources. From the U.S. Census Bureau, we looked at each state’s finances for the 2012 fiscal year, including revenue, tax collection, pension funding, debt, and expenditure. In order to identify how each state’s economy was performing, we reviewed data on unemployment rates, exports, and GDP. We looked at poverty, educational attainment, violent crime rates, and foreclosures to assess social outcomes and residents’ well-being."
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Economic indicators should NOT be studied alone to determine which state is "best governed".

North Dakota has had a huge economic boom over the past decade due to oil and gas drilling and production. However, this has been coupled with sad environmental destruction and a sharp increase in crime. State government has opened public lands to drilling, and now those lands are ruined forever. Residents of that state will suffer in the long run for the destruction of their land, which has been done purely to enable the oil and gas hogs who live on the overpopulated east and west coasts to maintain their gluttonous ways of life. For this reason alone I would put North Dakota on the very bottom of the list of "best governed" states.

I've already said my piece on my home state of MN.

And Iowa always stays steady no matter which party is in power. Perhaps it would be appropriate to say that Iowa is a well governed state due to the state employees who actually run things.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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iowa. Expansion of healthcare, continuous improvement of road infrastructure, laws put into place recently to protect natural resources from farm runoff, etc; building of new public schools to accommodate a growing housing boom, excellent public universities and private colleges, diverse economy. Good wages in comparison to COL. Low crime.
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Old 06-11-2015, 08:17 PM
 
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Not really, bub. Historically, the two states have always been considered sister states, from politics to in-state tuition for colleges and so on. There are differences, like with any states, but the really striking divergence has come recently.

Then again, I don't really trust the "wisdom" of Scott Walker supporters.
Look at historical manufacturing employment, for one. I don't know who you are talking to with the quotation marks, is it me?
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