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Old 06-19-2015, 08:08 AM
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Are you serious? SF population 780,971. MSA population: 4,594,060. CSA population: 8,607,423.
Yes. See the links and photos, they're within the 20-30 miles driving distance of the OP. There's a lot of open land in a short distance.
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:49 PM
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Yes. See the links and photos, they're within the 20-30 miles driving distance of the OP. There's a lot of open land in a short distance.
You could drive 20 miles in any direction from downtown Denver and find isolated areas like that. However, no one would ever say Denver doesn't have a lot of suburban sprawl. A CSA of almost 9 million people with a main city of 700,000 has a lot of people living in the burbs, about 8 million of them, in fact.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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Spokane, Washington.
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Old 06-20-2015, 06:57 AM
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You could drive 20 miles in any direction from downtown Denver and find isolated areas like that. However, no one would ever say Denver doesn't have a lot of suburban sprawl. A CSA of almost 9 million people with a main city of 700,000 has a lot of people living in the burbs, about 8 million of them, in fact.
The OP didn't say no suburbs, but asked where you could drive 20-30 miles from the city and be in rural /undeveloped areas. It's harder to do for Boston, San Francisco is more compact for its population.

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I'm talking about cities where you can drive out of downtown and be in rural areas within 20-30 miles or so. Only cities with more than 100,000 residents, though. Does this exist?
Most anything not in blue is non-developed and probably rural:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BVzXhsqbwh...00/BayArea.jpg
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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Grand Rapids
City population of 190,000 with a metro of over 1,000,000 and you do not think that this is sprawl?
What do you define as sprawl?
GRs metro takes up 5 counties!
Don't get me wrong, I like the city and it has a lot going for it, but lets not make it into something that is not.
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:12 AM
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All bu the smallest American cities are surrounded by suburbia, only some more than others. But some are quicker to get out of the city and suburbia than others.
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:33 AM
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All bu the smallest American cities are surrounded by suburbia, only some more than others. But some are quicker to get out of the city and suburbia than others.
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The OP didn't say no suburbs, but asked where you could drive 20-30 miles from the city and be in rural /undeveloped areas. It's harder to do for Boston, San Francisco is more compact for its population.



Most anything not in blue is non-developed and probably rural:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BVzXhsqbwh...00/BayArea.jpg
Denver, then. There are some such areas much closer than 20-30 miles from the city.

The "Bay Area" has always seemed like wall to wall people to me.
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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City population of 190,000 with a metro of over 1,000,000 and you do not think that this is sprawl?
What do you define as sprawl?
GRs metro takes up 5 counties!
Don't get me wrong, I like the city and it has a lot going for it, but lets not make it into something that is not.
I think the focus is more on the ability to get out of the middle of the city and into a rural area within that time frame versus the size of the metro or if the area has suburbs/a degree of sprawl. Every metro with a city of at least 100,000 has some degree of suburbia, but I'm assuming that the OP is looking for areas with quick access from the city to the "country".
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:55 AM
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Denver, then. There are some such areas much closer than 20-30 miles from the city.
Sure a lot of western metros would fit that criteria, just thought of San Francisco because I spent the most time there recently.

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The "Bay Area" has always seemed like wall to wall people to me.
Not my impression, obviously has lots of people, but I was impressed how quickly you could leave the populated areas — part of it is a quirk of geography / topography. I noticed in a lot of spots it went somewhat dense suburbia to open space with little in between. The most dramatic contrast is in Marin County, immediately to the north of San Francisco is mostly national park land and the western 2/3rds of the county isn't developed. San Mateo County to the south might be half.
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