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Old 06-23-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Looked it up, and the water is Wausau / the hills are bordering Wausau and a border-burb. 40,000 city/80,000 total metro ain't much of a city, especially when the topic is "urban sprawl," so my statement stands. The list above (which is the topic I responded to, see quote) definitely contains towns that are "hardly urban," the statement I quoted and agreed with, including Wausau, where I used to work. And maybe you forgot the OP?
I didn't even read it - I just responded to your post. It's not much of a city, and it doesn't fit the OP, but 80,000 people can't be discounted. In some states, it would be a "larger" city. WI is just blessed to have many cities this size and larger. By the way, I live in Wausau, and it's beautiful here.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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The line between suburb of one city and different other city can get kind of grey.

You're not going to find any place that is just some downtown skyscrapers and a forest surrounding it.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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What you'd have to find is a city that built-up prior to WWII and then stagnated and somehow survived enough to be viable today. I don't care what city you look at in America, even the most densely populated and those with large urban centers have some measure of post war suburban sprawl spawned by the automobile.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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This is within 30 miles of NYC (Their are some surrounding towns but this is a very rural looking place). Yes some cities sprawl 60 miles in one direction but every city has a weak direction of urban growth and that causes every city even Tokyo which has the most sprawl to have rural places 30 miles outside of the city.
This area might be right outside 30 miles of NYC https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.7...56!4m2!4m1!3e0
This is within 30 miles of NYC
I consider NYC as the city hall, since their is no Downtown.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.7...56!4m2!4m1!3e0
30 miles about from Chicago
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2402...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4842...!7i3328!8i1664
Yes, NYC driving 30 miles it's impossible unless you specify which part of NYC, because most of the city is an urban area. But within a 30 mile radius of NYC city hall it is possible.

North of LA isn't that sprawling so I can find places like this within 25 miles maybe 20.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/34.0...85a4c5!1m0!3e0
This is just outside LA city limits, this probably shouldn't count though -10-15 miles from the city.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/34.0...7b3c38!1m0!3e0
Within 30 miles of Tokyo
not nature, but very rural.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9005...7i13312!8i6656
These where basically from the exact city centers and chances are if you live in an Urban area you live in one of the surrounding areas from the city center, which migh take a few more miles off. Tokyo at this point though, NYC, LA and chicago are close to becoming the 3 cities in the world with urban areas 30 miles in any direction not including water. LA might not be because of the mountains immediately to the north but the other 3 for sure.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:25 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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20 miles from the Capitol Building, Denver Colfax and Broadway (west): https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ge...2e3878!6m1!1e1

North: https://www.google.com/maps/search/i...!7i4608!8i2592

East: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wa...1ec491!6m1!1e1


South: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ro...399a6d!6m1!1e1

All mileages approx.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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*sigh*
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:44 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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*sigh*
*sigh* this! You don't like that I could show that 20 miles from Denver in any direction, it is rural/open land. It doesn't fit with your opinion of Denver, where you do NOT live, as far as I can tell. Denver fits the OP's criteria, sorry you don't like that.
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:48 PM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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Huh? How can tell what he means from just "sigh"? Might be something else.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:01 PM
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Huh? How can tell what he means from just "sigh"? Might be something else.
1. He posted right after me. The fact that he didn't indicate what he was sighing about says (to me) he's sighing about the previous post. That and this:

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Right, neither Denver (not very dense and surrounded by sprawl) nor the Bay Area (San Fran and other areas are compact, but surrounded by sprawl) qualify here, so let's look elsewhere!

The OP is quite specific about sprawl - it's right there in the title. "Being in nature in 30 minutes" or whatever is simply a fairly insignificant corollary, considering it's more common than not, while an American city with little sprawl that goes from city to nature is very much a rarity.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:09 PM
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^^This is the OP, so Denver certainly counts by his criteria.
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I'm talking about cities where you can drive out of downtown and be in rural areas within 20-30 miles or so. Only cities with more than 100,000 residents, though. Does this exist?
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