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Old 06-19-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Old 06-19-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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I like Southern culture in general, but I'm not a fan of conservative politics. Are there areas in the South where me being a liberal atheist would not offend people? I'm not particularly fond of the culture of the West Coast and Northeast, as I prefer people who are more outgoing and don't beat around the bush.
Depends on what sort of liberal. Far left? I doubt you'll find anyplace that fits. Maybe somewhere in the triangle?

Moderate left and you keep it to yourself? You can find a place. The lack of religion will be a harder sell. It does tend to get a little lonely since you find fewer people who share your position on politics or religion.

Keep in mind on top of politics you have the civil war thing (it's not over/we won sentiments) and the concept of southern honor, which is offended "good 'ol boys" are quick to defend slights with aggression.

However, on the flip side of that there are places that sound like conservative fundamentalist hell holes on paper, but in real life are, for lack of a better term, normal.

As for people who don't beat around the bush you'll find that far more often in the NE than you will in the south. Plus as a northerner you'll run into people who go on and on with Yankee this and Yankee that, which is easy enough to ignore, but you'll come to realize you're not likely to "fit" any time soon.

Basically what happens is you end up keeping most of your opinions to yourself on most things and you get by. If you're the sort of person that likes to have discussions on those topics it isn't really going to fly in the south.

Not to mention if you need more than a handful of people being nice to you and want to be a "true southerner" you're going to be disappointed. For someone like myself who is a more of a moderate liberal (at least by PacNW standards) you can live here, but it's more of something you tolerate.

Edit: You'll probably need one of the big cities to get enough of a mix of liberals to your tastes. Asheville and similar sized places probably won't cut it.
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Old 06-19-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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I've noticed this to a great extent here on CD. You see a lot of members who self-identify as liberal unwilling or uncertain to live in an area where there is a chance there are not a lot of like-minded people around. This does not seem to be an issue with members who self-identify as conservatives.
I don't so much care about living among like-minded people; in some ways I actually prefer conservative people, I just want to make sure my tolerance is reciprocated.

The surliness and political correctness of the West Coast and Northeast can be almost stifling, in a way a place that still believed in God and things like courtship and small talk would be refreshing.
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Old 06-19-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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Not to mention if you need more than a handful of people being nice to you and want to be a "true southerner" you're going to be disappointed. For someone like myself who is a more of a moderate liberal (at least by PacNW standards) you can live here, but it's more of something you tolerate.

Edit: You'll probably need one of the big cities to get enough of a mix of liberals to your tastes. Asheville and similar sized places probably won't cut it.
What do you mean by a "moderate liberal"? I'm very economically left wing, but I don't care much for the political correctness or identity politics that typifies American liberalism.

I find most people in the PNW range from very conservative to very liberal; it's definitely not across-the-board leftie like people think. But yes still more "left" than the South on most issues of course.
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Old 06-19-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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What do you mean by a "moderate liberal"? I'm very economically left wing, but I don't care much for the political correctness or identity politics that typifies American liberalism.
By Portland standards I'm not very liberal. By Midwestern standards I am. By Pittsburgh standards I'm more socially liberal, but I certainly don't go in for any of the PC crap.

Mostly live and let live could sum it up. Want to smoke weed? I don't care, that's your deal. Are you gay? I don't care, that's your deal. Want to own a gun? I don't care, that's your deal. Want to have or not have religion? I don't care, as long as you're not pressing it on other people. As long as you're not hurting someone or being a drain on the system because of your choices then I could care less.

The thing that's rough in the south is let's say a woman is telling another woman how she wouldn't let her kid play with this other kid because that kid's folks "Weren't members of the right religion". So you turn to your buddy who seems relatively open minded and you want to say how messed up that is. So you do, BUT your buddy either doesn't see anything wrong with that or they support such things.

Or you're talking with some guy at work and you don't really know him outside of talking to him for a few months on lunch. So far he seems normal, but one day he pulls out his KKK pin/medal thing.

Race relations even in this area aren't the best.

It's just really odd things like that, which keep popping up.

Although I must say when I first moved here I remember a Greenville radio station talking about how a girl who got her belly button pierced was going to hell, but fast forward just 5 years and one morning they've become open enough to discuss alternatives to "just going to heaven" when people die. So, is it getting better? It's hard to say.
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Old 06-19-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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Look for a city with a Unitiarian church. A lot of Unitarians are atheist/agnostic but still want the camaraderie of fellowship.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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By Portland standards I'm not very liberal. By Midwestern standards I am. By Pittsburgh standards I'm more socially liberal, but I certainly don't go in for any of the PC crap.

Mostly live and let live could sum it up. Want to smoke weed? I don't care, that's your deal. Are you gay? I don't care, that's your deal. Want to own a gun? I don't care, that's your deal. Want to have or not have religion? I don't care, as long as you're not pressing it on other people. As long as you're not hurting someone or being a drain on the system because of your choices then I could care less.
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So you're a libertarian? I wouldn't say you're that different from the average Portlander at all. Most Portlanders are indifferent or favorable to things like weed, guns and gay marriage, but don't like the idea of paying a lot of taxes or the concept of welfare very much and are generally faithful to the concept of capitalism. A higher minimum wage is about the most progressive it gets anywhere in the USA for most people.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Liberals are everywhere. Including atheist. As long as you keep your mouth shut and stay out of political and religious arguments, you'll be fine. You're the one moving there. So respect the local customs and way of life.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Despite popular belief, Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill is more religious than Hampton Roads or Richmond/Petersburg. NC in general is among the most religious states. You can certainly be happy in any NC city (they are lovely) but their equivalents across the border in VA are more liberal and less religious (except for Lynchburg VA, its the 3rd most religious city in the country).

I'm an atheist, socialist homo and I love the South. Atlanta, Charleston, Charlotte, Raleigh, Richmond, Norfolk, Birmingham, Nashville, Louisville, Alexandria and Arlington (county) are all fantastic cites full of culture, deviants, creative types and all varieties of people.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I like Southern culture in general, but I'm not a fan of conservative politics. Are there areas in the South where me being a liberal atheist would not offend people? I'm not particularly fond of the culture of the West Coast and Northeast, as I prefer people who are more outgoing and don't beat around the bush.
I don't see why i wouldn't be happy in the south, i don't let my politics completely take over my life and i can handle being around people with different beliefs than me.
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