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Old 06-21-2015, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Nevada highest unemployment in the country, Michigan and Ohio hate to pick on them states with many dying industries but they have a lot of hard working blue collar folks its horrible, Rhode Island high unemployment and bad economy and high cost of living, Georgia same with Rhode Island, Arizona/Florida although not for wealthy retirees but for young people needing high paying and California(mostly because of state budget concerns) still a great state and a leader in the US for a lot of corporations like Apple and tech companies.
"Them states" happen to have an abundant fresh water supply, which is going to be key in the future of this country. Michigan is already advertising its benefits to water starved companies in California and the Desert Southwest that have to think hard about their futures in that region.

Honestly, I hope that it never comes down to people having to flock to the Great Lakes states because of lack of water elsewhere. I would abhor seeing the kind of ugly, unbridled, growth and sprawl happen here that has happened elsewhere.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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Connecticut is the only state where you can get a high quality of life? lol
Are you here "just asking questions"...? haha

But no that's not what I'm trying to say. Obviously CT isn't the only state to have a high quality of life but in CT you are squeezed between 2 world class cities and many other amenities that you can't get anywhere else in the whole country. It has its own character...
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Old 06-22-2015, 03:34 AM
 
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"Them states" happen to have an abundant fresh water supply, which is going to be key in the future of this country. Michigan is already advertising its benefits to water starved companies in California and the Desert Southwest that have to think hard about their futures in that region.

Honestly, I hope that it never comes down to people having to flock to the Great Lakes states because of lack of water elsewhere. I would abhor seeing the kind of ugly, unbridled, growth and sprawl happen here that has happened elsewhere.
Honestly, a lot of the great lake cities have already experienced MASSIVE depopulation SO you wouldn't have to worry about a lot of new sprawls b/c they could just move into the abundant available empty land/lots already present in cities.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Honestly, a lot of the great lake cities have already experienced MASSIVE depopulation SO you wouldn't have to worry about a lot of new sprawls b/c they could just move into the abundant available empty land/lots already present in cities.
Yes, that MASSIVE depopulation was to be expected after the Great Migration caused such a MASSIVE and artificial surge in population in the early to mid-20th century. When the manufacturing jobs that attracted all of those folks from the South to the Northern cities started leaving for China, Mexico, etc., it was to be expected that that kind of a population could not be maintained.

Other than in obvious areas like the Detroit city proper, there are not vast areas of depopulated housing and empty buildings. Much of my adopted home state of Michigan is actually doing quite well and appears quite attractive and prosperous as compared to many areas in other parts of the country, but you probably have to live here to actually acknowledge or understand that. My point was that I love my quaint, attractive, little town, and I would hate to see and insurge of out of staters moving here just because we have one of the most critical resources required for life, and one that is increasing compromised in other, much more populous areas of the country, namely abundant, fresh water.

I hope that our cold, somewhat snowy, winters will deter many from coming here if the water crisis becomes even more severe in the SW and California. Nothing against those folks, but there is something to be said for living in a place with great natural beauty and a sustainable population without sprawl and the myriad problems that it creates.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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Georgia?
I'm just as confused.
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Nevada highest unemployment in the country, Michigan and Ohio hate to pick on them states with many dying industries but they have a lot of hard working blue collar folks its horrible, Rhode Island high unemployment and bad economy and high cost of living, Georgia same with Rhode Island, Arizona/Florida although not for wealthy retirees but for young people needing high paying and California(mostly because of state budget concerns) still a great state and a leader in the US for a lot of corporations like Apple and tech companies.
What? Are you sure about that?
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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The Southeast IS the Deep South.
I think he is referring to states like Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina when he says the southeast. He is probably calling Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana the deep south, which are economically less prosperous than the southern states that border the Atlantic.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Natural Resources: The Southwest and California. The water issues are real.
I think the water issues are overblown. At worst, you can start investing in desalination plants. They are expensive but will provide water. In the meantime, states can do a lot to conserve water (there have already been huge gains made in decreased water use per capita). People can replace lawns with xeriscaping.

As for California specifically, 80% of water is used by agriculture. To offer one absurd example, California uses more water to grow almonds than all indoor residential use combined. California almond crop heats up drought debate California's agriculture is really important for feeding America, but it's only 1% of California's economy. If that all shut down tomorrow, California would be okay.
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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lol didn't the gov have brand new laptops sent to detroit schools and then almost 2,000 of them were stolen?


rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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"Them states" happen to have an abundant fresh water supply, which is going to be key in the future of this country. Michigan is already advertising its benefits to water starved companies in California and the Desert Southwest that have to think hard about their futures in that region.

Honestly, I hope that it never comes down to people having to flock to the Great Lakes states because of lack of water elsewhere. I would abhor seeing the kind of ugly, unbridled, growth and sprawl happen here that has happened elsewhere.
Besides lots of water, one of "them states" isn't doing too badly. Cleveland, which happens to be one of those states he didn't want to pick on is not doing too badly. That percentage to date has risen to 98 with some long waiting lists according to the latest news reports. People wouldn't be moving here if they didn't know something good about it.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/artic...llers-in-first
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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Besides lots of water, one of "them states" isn't doing too badly. Cleveland, which happens to be one of those states he didn't want to pick on is not doing too badly. That percentage to date has risen to 98 with some long waiting lists according to the latest news reports. People wouldn't be moving here if they didn't know something good about it.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/artic...llers-in-first
Technically in 2015 neither of them are doing badly. Both are gaining population, both are growing economically. Problem is no matter what happens certain people will interpret things as they saw them on the news in 2008, and not by their personal knowledge and experience. Tis something that won't change no matter where you are.
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