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Old 09-11-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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Those are my choices as well -- but I would also consider Colorado and the Dakotas
I agree on both Dakotas...but I would have to say due to Denver....and much of the surrounding communities...Colorado is quickly becoming like the majority of the country.

But that's just my opinion, I could be way off.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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We should go back to having at least one state where you can own another person and dunk a witch.

But seriously, I love the early values of our country but for those and a couple of others. Unfortunately those values were, in large part, cultivated to enable the freedoms of a tiny population with an entire continent to tame. And with little regard for those people who existed outside the privilege of the early American citizens.
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Old 09-11-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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We should go back to having at least one state where you can own another person and dunk a witch.

But seriously, I love the early values of our country but for those and a couple of others. Unfortunately those values were, in large part, cultivated to enable the freedoms of a tiny population with an entire continent to tame. And with little regard for those people who existed outside the privilege of the early American citizens.
Really? I tend to think our freedoms were specifically to benefit ALL Americans...especially those that were not a member of the upper class or higher social strata. That was partly a reflection of why we broke away from British rule, wasn't it?
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Metro Birmingham, AL
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Really? I tend to think our freedoms were specifically to benefit ALL Americans...especially those that were not a member of the upper class or higher social strata. That was partly a reflection of why we broke away from British rule, wasn't it?
Unless you were black, female, gay, a witch, etc. For most of this country's history the only group who were privileged and had rights were white males.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Really? I tend to think our freedoms were specifically to benefit ALL Americans...especially those that were not a member of the upper class or higher social strata. That was partly a reflection of why we broke away from British rule, wasn't it?
There is a difference between what we think freedoms were versus what they actually were to all of the people living in the US at the time.

I vote that all states have the original values, as in my opinion the only true "original value" at the time of the Revolution was the right to self-determination apart from the British. I would say that all states remain equally successful in maintaining British independence.
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Old 09-13-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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It's not a state but you should consider moving to colonial Williamsburg, it seems to have what you are looking for
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